WILDMAN/TYLER

[johnP-bedford]

So did John Smith marry a Martha Wildman born around 1801 at Radwell, birthplace (as per 1851 / 1861 censuses) - I cannot find a marriage which would be about 1830 - there is a member submission without any name for her.

[shirle]

Did Catherine have a sister Martha

[bedfordshire boy]

Hi John

As the marriage isn't on the IGI, and as Felmersham has been extracted and Bletsoe post 1812 hasn't, the chances are that the marriage was probably in Bletsoe

Another one on the Archives to do list!

David

[johnP-bedford]

I am thinking there's a link from the Bells to the Wildmans via the Faireys....

I said earlier ... at the marriage of William Fairey & Mary Chambers, both of Radwell, on 28/02/1813 at Felmersham; the witnesses were Thomas Bell & Catherine Bell ...   I've just been looking at Bells of Felmersham (Radwell being hamlet attached to that village)

A joint baptism took place at Felmersham on 26 June 1808 of
Maria - daughter of John & Elizabeth Bell
Thomas - son of Thomas & Sarah Bell

... so inference is it's the same family = John & Thomas are related

other children baptised in Felmersham
11 Aug 1805  John - son of John & Elizabeth Bell
10 Aug 1806  Mary - daughter of Thomas & Sarah Bell

Marriage found on 28 May 1806 of Thomas Bell & Sarah Farey

So is it this Thomas Bell & his sister/cousin ? Catherine Bell who were witnesses to the above marriage of William Fairey & Mary Chambers ?

There is also a marriage of Samuel Bell to Martha Swannell 11/09/1818.

Thomas was a bricklayer on his marriage to Sarah Fairey. On the 1803 muster lists there are John Bell age 36 & Thomas Bell age 18, both Masons. In the book on Felmersham, a riverside parish, it has that John & Samuel Bell were masons who built the Felmersham/Radwell bridge in 1818 in an agreement with Joseph Swannell.  

In this same book it states the the Radwell Methodist meeting house of 1807 registration document was signed by John Bell & Joseph Swannell amongst others.  

... + John Partridge of Radwell had his house registered as a meeting house in 1806

Cheers John
  

 

[Dale]

Sorry Guys _ I have been sent home from the hospital for 2 hours while they operate on my mother who fell & broke her hip. She has many medical complications & the prognosis is not good.
She's the parent with Fairy genes  but this Fairy has to prioritise!
Solve the probs for me will you! I'd be fascinated to know if the William Fairey who married Mary Chambers had a brother named Thomas who also married? a Mary!
Don't know if James & William Wildman were brothers or cousins but presume that's the link!
Be back online asap.
Regards
Marlene

[johnP-bedford]

Hello Marlene,  Hope your mother is still making good progress.

From the Felmersham PR,
There is a marriage on 5 July 1805 of George Barnes, farmer of Thurleigh to Ann Wildman, by licence. From the marriage licences also at the library, it has both George & Ann being age 21 and that Edward Wildman, carpenter of Thurleigh stood surety. He was Ann's father & she was christened in Thurleigh on 30 June 1783. A number of IGI member submissions suggest this is Wildman or Tyler, but the PR does not say this.

Also there is a marriage on 19 Oct 1781 of John Fairey to Eliz Barnes. There are a number of baptisms between 1783 - 1799 being  children of John & Eliz Fairy/Faray/Farey.

All the best, John

[Dale]

Thanks John! It's hard to judge Joan's progress after 24 hours but pain relief is minimal and they have had her up & sitting in a chair AND she is "starving!" always  a good sign!

It fascinates me  that I have been unable to find a connection between the Thurleigh clan nor the Harrold Fairey lot with my very isolated William in Riseley - I can only presume that
1. he was illegitimate
2. his father's occupation took him outside the County for William's birth
3. that the 1841 census entry is incorrect
etc....

There is a William & Mary Fairey who were "expelled" to Godmanchester on the Blars site I think but there's no mention of children... I've often wondered what the papers say about those 2!

Are you able to look at the papers?
Marlene

[johnP-bedford]

As it happens, I was going to pop in the Archives late tomorrow afternoon for an hour & a bit (as they stay open until 7 pm on a Monday) - primarily to find the John Smith / Martha marriage & the Thomas Wildman baptism at the Weslyan/Methodist church.

The Blars extract is from the Bolnhurst parish records ; Overseers of the Poor Accounts.
 I will make a note & take a look.

John

[johnP-bedford]

Out of A2A,

(1) from the Southill PR / Overseers to the Poor,  is the following dated 1827  ......

Removal order for Sarah, wife of Samuel Tyler alias Samuel Wildman from Wilden to Southill, 5 October 1827, with a statement by Sarah concerning the disappearance of Samuel Tyler "some 45 years since", and on her marriage firstly to W. Sharp and secondly to John Davis of Wilden, both now dead.

(2) from Beds Quarter Session Rolls dated 1749

Recognizances: Sam. Tyler alias Wildman, Thurleigh,: bastardy. WITH ANN LEONARD.