WILDMAN/TYLER

[shirle]

Thanks John,

I can now assume that Thomas is the son of James Wildman & Catherine Bell. 

At the marriage of James & Catherine on the 4 June 1817 at Felmesham is there any other information such as Parent or Witness? 

I thought Catherine & Martha may have been sisters and was only maternal logic which I was going on.

Shirley

[bedfordshire boy]

I can find no trace of a baptism of James in Riseley or nearby c 1787, which is perhaps understandable if the family was non-conformist.

The only Tyler cum Wildman in Riseley in the 1803 Muster List was John Tyler servant 17 single, but I can't see a baptism for him either.

However there is a marriage in Riseley on 25 Dec 1783 between John Tyler and Elizabeth Baldwin, and a burial on 12 March 1800 of a John Tyler, which may be him and would explain his non-appearance on the muster list.  But it seems as though there were two other Tyler families in Riseley at this time; John and Mary, and Edward and Sarah.

Pretty non-conclusive!

David

[shirle]

I don't know what the 1803 Muster List is.   Was it only held in Riseley or are there lists for other parishes in Beds as well.

Does anyone have any information on Catherine Bell and her family.

Shirley

[Dale]

Another Rambler returns  thanks for the lookup of William & Mary Fairey JP.

The pre 1837 marriage entries don't usually list parents Shirle - unless you happen to recognise a name as a witness.
Cheers
Marlene

[bedfordshire boy]

The government prepared for the defence of the country in the event of invasion, by creating reserves of men not already serving in the miliary, really acting as back up to the regular soldiers.

Most of these men were picked by ballot, but to do so all eligible men had to be listed (a mini census if you like) - Muster Lists.

Most have not survived, but some have including quite a lot of parishes in North Beds

Virtually all of Beds baptisms and marriages pre 1812 are on the IGI - if they're not there you may be struggling, particularly if they were non conformist

David

[johnP-bedford]

Regarding the Bells of Radwell, I have this information - but cannot link any of them (yet)

Catherine Bell  married  James Wildman   1817
Thomas Bell     married  Sarah Fairey     1806
Samuel Bell       married  Martha Swannell   1818
John Smith       married  Martha Bell   1824

John Bell married Elizabeth ? 

This last one may be Elizabeth Moor who married John Bell at Chellington 12/10/1796.  These had children Maria 1808 & John 1805 Felmersham, plus a Joseph baptised 17 July 1814 at the Weslyan Methodist church (per IGI) .

He could well be the John Bell age 36 found on the 1803 Muster list

Elizabeth Moor b 1771 Chellington had sister Martha b 1770, & she married William Fole at Chellington.

Interestingly if you go back to baptisms at the Weslyan Methodist church you find baptisms of children to Samuel Bell & Martha (Swannell ?) 

George Allen Bell 1824 born 1819
Martha More Bell 1824  born 1821

thinking cap time - John

[johnP-bedford]

Just played White Rabbit - thanks for the prompt!

just for you David - enjoy ,,  hope you've got some speakers by now


http://youtube.com/watch?v=6xhYk9PEmXA

[bedfordshire boy]

Brilliant, even through headphones - thanks!

[Gillg]

JP and David

What a couple of old rockers you are!  JP, I do try to remember those song quotes that you use, but you know what they say - if you can remember the 60s........... 

I've been watching this thread because of the Fairey connection, though they aren't my family, as far as I can see.

Shirle

Sorry to butt in on your thread, but when these two get going, in between the banter there's always some good, reliable information, as Marlene (Dale) and I know.

Gill