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Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« Reply #9 on: Monday 03 September 07 14:31 BST (UK) »
Cheshire Mog has pointed out that a book exists which has examples of tornography and the description confirms it is related to impressing wax seals:
SHARP, Granville. THE GILBART PRIZE ESSAY on the Adaptation of Recent Discoveries and Inventions in Science and Art to the Purposes of Practical Banking. London: Groomridge, 1854. 8vo, engraved portrait-frontispiece and an engraved portrait of the author, numerous plates, specimens and articles, 1 torn, index tabs torn with loss. Contemp. green half morocco, gilt. Very good, uncut copy. $1500. ¶ Third edition, the only illustrated version. The illustrations, numbered through 90, but with many bis items (some folding or consisting of two leaves), preserve an extraordinary collection of inventions, many represented by actual specimens, including security paper, banknotes, checks and ink specimens. This copy apparently lacks four specimens. There are also 15 wax seals mounted on the rear pastedown illustrating the new process of ‘tornography.’ Sharp, an accountant in the East of England Bank at Norwich, won the prize of £100 for his articles applicable to banking. Cotton & Little p.52.

 

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Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« Reply #10 on: Monday 03 September 07 18:52 BST (UK) »
Wow that must be some book
The site I saw it on is advertising it at 900 USD equivalent  gbp 446
   

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General Information relating to villages of JACKSDALE, PYE HILL & WESTWOOD Notts
Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR, GUILFOYLE, BICKFORD, EPPS, BEAZLEY, DARKE, LANG, QUANT, BLANKENSHIP
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES

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Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« Reply #11 on: Monday 03 September 07 19:31 BST (UK) »
Found a little bit more on google books
Looks like the author of the prize winning essay may have recommended the process of tornography to the banking profession for the engraving of checks (cheques) maybe ?

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=JjcDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PT18&dq=Granville+Sharp+Banking
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Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR, GUILFOYLE, BICKFORD, EPPS, BEAZLEY, DARKE, LANG, QUANT, BLANKENSHIP
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES

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Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« Reply #12 on: Monday 03 September 07 23:09 BST (UK) »
Bit odd this one. Page 138 has heading reference to new methods of engraving, but I cant find any detail for it. I downloaded the pdf and tried paging through all 166 pages and no mention? Did I miss it somehow?
Coleman (Gt Brickhill, Bucks and London)
Smith (Chelsea, London)
Floyd (London)
Martin (Newton Abbot and Plymouth, Devon)
Martin (Charlton and Woolwich, Kent)
Plummer (Bury St Edmonds, Suffolk and Chelsea)
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Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 September 07 00:11 BST (UK) »
Try searching for Granville - the author
see the box 'search this book' on the bottom right

or try this link

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=JjcDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PT18&dq=Granville+Sharp+Banking#PPT18,M1
there does not seem to be a page number

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General Information relating to villages of JACKSDALE, PYE HILL & WESTWOOD Notts
Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR, GUILFOYLE, BICKFORD, EPPS, BEAZLEY, DARKE, LANG, QUANT, BLANKENSHIP
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES

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Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 September 07 00:13 BST (UK) »
It does not mention tornography but it does explain the extent of his prize winning essay (aka rather large book) and why he may have been motivated to write it
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Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR, GUILFOYLE, BICKFORD, EPPS, BEAZLEY, DARKE, LANG, QUANT, BLANKENSHIP
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES

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Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 15 September 07 19:39 BST (UK) »
A quick update o this.. I have traced a copy of the Essay in question to the V & A Museum.  The catalogue entry says

"Includes fifteen specimens of brass seals in red sealing-wax, produced by Thomas Martin, Newton Abbot, Devon, attached to inside back board."

I plan to go and see it next week and get some photos of the Seals. I'm hoping that the Essay itself will say a bit more about Tornography and Thomas Martin.
Many thanks for finding  the original reference!!!
Coleman (Gt Brickhill, Bucks and London)
Smith (Chelsea, London)
Floyd (London)
Martin (Newton Abbot and Plymouth, Devon)
Martin (Charlton and Woolwich, Kent)
Plummer (Bury St Edmonds, Suffolk and Chelsea)
Vaughan (London)

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Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 16 September 07 11:02 BST (UK) »
Good luck with your visit
Have you had to contact the V& A first to arrange a viewing ?

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General Information relating to villages of JACKSDALE, PYE HILL & WESTWOOD Notts
Cheshire - TAYLOR, HEAPY, KNOWLES, HAMPSON, CLAYTON, STONIER, PRITCHARD, NADIN, GALLIMORE
Staffs - HEAPY
Devon - CLIFT, VITTERY, TRIST, MOLLOY, COBLEY, LEAR, GUILFOYLE, BICKFORD, EPPS, BEAZLEY, DARKE, LANG, QUANT, BLANKENSHIP
Devon & Cornwall - CLIFT, LARK
Somerset -Frome -HEAPY
Derbys/Notts- COCKAYNE, PHEASEY, KNOWLES

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Re: Tornographer (Engraver of Seals by Steam Machinery)
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 16 September 07 15:22 BST (UK) »
I have to pre order the books, 2 days in advance and I'll need to get a Temporary Ticket when I go there wit some id.
Coleman (Gt Brickhill, Bucks and London)
Smith (Chelsea, London)
Floyd (London)
Martin (Newton Abbot and Plymouth, Devon)
Martin (Charlton and Woolwich, Kent)
Plummer (Bury St Edmonds, Suffolk and Chelsea)
Vaughan (London)