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Whose child and where did he go?!?
« on: Monday 27 August 07 12:40 BST (UK) »

Ive followed my SHARPs back to the 1851 census but this census has me stumped! I can't get any further back, nor can i find the all important marriage date for the couple!

1851 census   HO107/1809   37

Coast Guard Cottages, Cromer, Norfolk

James Sharp  Head  age 35  Boatman (and) Cst Guard, born Ealing, Middlesex
Susannah Sharp, Wife, age 27, born Weymouth, Dorset
Mary Gray, Mother in Law, Wid, age 65, (I can't make out place of birth)
Martin Wm Barry, Stepson, age 9, Scholar, born Whitstable, Kent
Jas H Sharp, Son, age 6, Born Kent (cant make out where in Kent!)
Elizth Mary do, Dau, age 5, born do do
Jn Willm do, Son, age 3, born Dorset (?????) Island?
George do, Son, age 9 mon, born Norfolk, Cromer

My problem is that i cannot find a marriage for Susannah and James, nor is there any trace of Martin Wm Barry after or before this census, and i do not know to whom he belongs!!

The IGI has some details of Susannah and James, but nothing certain, think a lot are member submissions and not directly from the PRs.

Any help would be brilliant!

Emma
Yorkshire: Bennison, Sedman, Collinson, Taylor, Lambert, Ness
Cumberland: Carrick
Hunts, Leicstershire, Beds: Lewin, Beale, Kinton, Weston
Middlesex: Gadsdon, Matts, Stephenson, Sharp
Lincolnshire: Stephenson, Would, Blythman
Ireland: Callan,
Scotland: Bunyan/Bullion

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Re: Whose child and where did he go?!?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 August 07 12:43 BST (UK) »
There are some details for James SHARP on -

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Coastguards/S.html
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Whose child and where did he go?!?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 August 07 12:48 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Is it possible that Susannah was married before and had Martin before she married James.

There is a marriage on Freebmd in Blean, Kent (which covers Whitstable) in 1843

James Sharp

Susan Barry

Dec Quarter 1843

Susan
Flucker, Rutherford, Linton all Newhaven, Leith Scotland
Dixon...North Sheilds and Barrow in Furness
Green...Durham and Barrow in Furness
Duffy...Edinburgh
Mangan...Edinburgh and County Cavan , Ireland
Galligan..Edinburgh and County Cavan, Ireland

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Re: Whose child and where did he go?!?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 August 07 12:50 BST (UK) »
There is also the birth of a Martin William Barry

Sept Quarter 1841 Blean, Kent

Susan
Flucker, Rutherford, Linton all Newhaven, Leith Scotland
Dixon...North Sheilds and Barrow in Furness
Green...Durham and Barrow in Furness
Duffy...Edinburgh
Mangan...Edinburgh and County Cavan , Ireland
Galligan..Edinburgh and County Cavan, Ireland


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Re: Whose child and where did he go?!?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 August 07 12:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks bearcat! Didn't know that existed!!


Susan: Thankyou for the marriage! That does look like a likely match!



Emma
Yorkshire: Bennison, Sedman, Collinson, Taylor, Lambert, Ness
Cumberland: Carrick
Hunts, Leicstershire, Beds: Lewin, Beale, Kinton, Weston
Middlesex: Gadsdon, Matts, Stephenson, Sharp
Lincolnshire: Stephenson, Would, Blythman
Ireland: Callan,
Scotland: Bunyan/Bullion

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Re: Whose child and where did he go?!?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 August 07 12:54 BST (UK) »

You're so fast Susan!!  :)

I can't find Martin Wm on any other census nor a death for him. Now im wondering whether he may have gone under the name Sharp after the 1851. He would have been 19 by the 61 census, so possibly married or working away from home.

Emma
Yorkshire: Bennison, Sedman, Collinson, Taylor, Lambert, Ness
Cumberland: Carrick
Hunts, Leicstershire, Beds: Lewin, Beale, Kinton, Weston
Middlesex: Gadsdon, Matts, Stephenson, Sharp
Lincolnshire: Stephenson, Would, Blythman
Ireland: Callan,
Scotland: Bunyan/Bullion

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Re: Whose child and where did he go?!?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 August 07 13:49 BST (UK) »
Susannah should be a GRAY on first marriage, unless Mother-in-law remarried. 
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Whose child and where did he go?!?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 October 07 17:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Emma,
I'm afraid I can't help with your Sharps, but just thought I'd mention that my GGG grandfather William DAY (b1794) was a coastguard and was stationed at Cromer from 1840 to 1853.  My GG grandfather Robert DAY (b1824) was also a coastguard, stationed at Cromer from 1848 until 1856, so our ancestors were probably neighbours and colleagues.

I know this doesn't help you, but I was struck by the coincidence!
Good luck with your search
Caz
Vivash, Hampshire
Day, Hampshire & Norfolk
Merritt, Hampshire
Olsinia, any
Coastguards

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Re: Whose child and where did he go?!?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 October 07 14:02 BST (UK) »

You are inded correct Caz!! I've just looked again at my 1851 census copy and your ROBERT DAY is living 2 households away from my Sharps!!

Small world!!

Emma
Yorkshire: Bennison, Sedman, Collinson, Taylor, Lambert, Ness
Cumberland: Carrick
Hunts, Leicstershire, Beds: Lewin, Beale, Kinton, Weston
Middlesex: Gadsdon, Matts, Stephenson, Sharp
Lincolnshire: Stephenson, Would, Blythman
Ireland: Callan,
Scotland: Bunyan/Bullion