drownings in the thames

[Darian Zam]

This has taken over 8 years to solve from when the first Tyree descendant approached me in frustration over this issue of Polly's disappearance. Great work everyone, you have been amazing. Thank you.
Obviously there are a number of questions yet to answer such as, what happened to her body, where is she interred. Obviously some time between Apr 29-May 3 the inquest was conducted  and ruling made on cause of death, so she was recorded as a death around that time to appear in the quarter end Jun 1901.
I wonder if she was buried outside of consecrated ground, because of her condition and the circumstances. I'm not definite on the Tyree's denomination but assuming Catholic since they were Irish originally. It doesn't even nominate a denomination on the family plot in Dunedin.
I wonder if anyone knows what the situation was with unclaimed, unidentified and destitute individuals, was there a pauper's cemetery or mass grave in London at that time? I don't know what protocol was in such situations in early C20th.

I think that we have all been working hard at this. As ever it is down to everyones input, we still need to know when she arrived in England and where from.

I am glad that at least this part of the mystery has been solved.  Where was she buried

[KGarrad]

Great. Thanks! I'd be interested to know when they usually conducted the census and whether they did it throughout then Britain at the same time or it varied. In New Zealand it was conducted around mid-June with a supplementary added in July from memory. Sometimes this can make all the difference in working out a story timeline.

Jessie E Harden was at 28 Westdale Road in the 1901 census with her husband, children, brother in law and one lodger

The 1901 census was taken at midnight on 31st March 1901.
That was throughout the UK.
https://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/tutorials/1901-census

[Darian Zam]

Well yes, he was a lot younger than her another factor on top of everything else that made it repellent for the family obviously.
Clearly since Arthur Grant was a steward for White Star Lines specifically on the SS Moravian which is the liner Polly traveled on from Sydney to London, this is how they met. The news reports misquoted the company as P&O when it was actually Aberdeen.If the run was a about 13 days one way, by the time the Arthur Grant I quoted found in migration records left London via Capetown, he would have been in Sydney more or less the same day the ship she was booked on left for Melbourne..

According to the newspaper he was 21 and a steward!

[Darian Zam]

Yeah I have spotted that   this afternoon and it throws a rather large hole in the story Arthur Grant's father told the press about what had transpired since early January. The census as someone else pointed out shows the couple could not have been residing at Plumstead address until early April, therefore they were somewhere else for at least 8 weeks. The family have one boarder at the time named William Mitchell.

Great. Thanks! I'd be interested to know when they usually conducted the census and whether they did it throughout then Britain at the same time or it varied. In New Zealand it was conducted around mid-June with a supplementary added in July from memory. Sometimes this can make all the difference in working out a story timeline.

Jessie E Harden was at 28 Westdale Road in the 1901 census with her husband, children, brother in law and one lodger

The 1901 census was taken at midnight on 31st March 1901.
That was throughout the UK.
https://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/tutorials/1901-census

[KGarrad]

Well yes, he was a lot younger than her another factor on top of everything else that made it repellent for the family obviously.
Clearly since Arthur Grant was a steward for White Star Lines specifically on the SS Moravian which is the liner Polly traveled on from Sydney to London, this is how they met. The news reports misquoted the company as P&O when it was actually Aberdeen.If the run was a about 13 days one way, by the time the Arthur Grant I quoted found in migration records left London via Capetown, he would have been in Sydney more or less the same day the ship she was booked on left for Melbourne..

According to the newspaper he was 21 and a steward!

Being pedantic, the SS Moravian was launched in 1899 by the Aberdeen White Star Line.
There was accommodation for 50-1st and 650-3rd class passengers.

[jonwarrn]

From Deceased online
Arthur Grant
Burial date 30 April 1901
Location Greenwich

If it's not been posted already , via search on ancestry (Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014)
Name (Adult Female)
Register Type Burial
Death Date 23 Apr 1901
Burial or Cremation Date 30 Apr 1901
Burial or Cremation Place Greenwich, London, England
URL   https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=3753843

[jonwarrn]

Both of those burials appear to be at Woolwich Cemetery (but not in the same grave)

[Darian Zam]

No it hasn't in this much detail. There has also been similar info claiming Grant was also interred 30 Apr but apparently that was  delayed  for another week after last minute identification by the family.
There are quite a number of cemeteries in Greenwich, there must have been one that was specified for unknown/unidentified bodies. How do you tell which one, and where the interment would be?

From Deceased online
Arthur Grant
Burial date 30 April 1901
Location Greenwich

If it's not been posted already , via search on ancestry (Web: UK, Burial and Cremation Index, 1576-2014)
Name (Adult Female)
Register Type Burial
Death Date 23 Apr 1901
Burial or Cremation Date 30 Apr 1901
Burial or Cremation Place Greenwich, London, England
URL   https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=3753843

[KGarrad]

According to GenUKI, cemetery at St Alphege, Greenwich.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/KEN/Greenwich

Other possibilities:
Charlton Cemetery
Eltham Cemetery
Plumstead Cemetery
Woolwich Cemetery

See: https://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/directory/35/search_for_a_cemetery_or_crematorium