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Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« on: Wednesday 22 August 07 23:59 BST (UK) »
Hi! I'm Michael Lean Cole from Argentina and I'm looking for any relatives to Henry Roger COLE, who married Jane Sedgwick LEAN and had:

Caroline R COLE
William James L COLE (my great great grandfather, wife: Ethel BRIDGER)
Julia Jane COLE (husband: Stephen Henry MOORE)

Thanks a lot

Michael

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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 August 07 23:20 BST (UK) »
Hi cousin in Argentina  ;D

Do you have all the census info on these rellies ...?  Are you looking to go further back or are you just wanting to find live relatives  :)

Deb in USA x
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 August 07 02:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Deb!

I'm trying to do  both things: go further back and find living relatives as well, but I don't know how to proceed. How do you have access to all Census? Is that the only source of information I should look for? I guess you're very experienced in this so please give some tips.

Greetings from Argentina.

Michael

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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 August 07 04:07 BST (UK) »
hi Michael, cous  ;D

I use ancestry and the national archives as well as IGI ....International Genealogical Index.

Keith and I have a whole lot on your Ethel Bridger, which I am sure he has shared with you ...well I hope so  ::)

I will search around and see what I can find ...will be back in the morning ...

At least you have found two living rellies already ... :D

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 August 07 15:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Michael

here they are in 1851:

10 North row, st Andrew, Plymouth Devon
Jane S Cole head mar 49 pursers wife RN  b Plymouth (she has been transcribed as JOHN ..on original clearly JANE)
Caroline R  dau unm 21 b Stonehouse
William J L son 18 b Stonehouse
Julia Jane dau unm  10 scholar b Stonehouse
Alice S LEAN (transcribed Lewis) sister unm 58 annuitant
Rebecca Harman boarder 63 Fundholder b devon

1841:
Adelaide Street, East Stonehouse, Devon
Jane COLE 35 Ind
Caroline Cole 10
William Cole 8
Julia Cole 1
all born in county

next door to them :
Rebecca LEAN 75 ind
Alice Lean 45 Ind

All but Alice Lean were born in county.

this is IGI extracted info;   could this be your gt gt grandfather?;
HENRY ROGERS COLE
Born 22 may 1805
christened  17 June 1805
Morrice St-Wesleyan, Devonport, Devon
parents: John Cole and Elizabeth

I will look for more ...

deb :)



Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 August 07 15:44 BST (UK) »
Hi again

Re: Caroline R Cole b c 1830

Marriage;
Caroline Rebecca COLE to John Minett Hockly
Dec q 1855 Plymouth Devon
vol 5b p 429

1861 census;
39 Portland Square, Charles, Plymouth
Caroline R HOCKLY head mar 31 wife of master RN b Stonehouse
Alice dau 3 b Plymouth
Edward J son 1 b Plymouth
Alice S Lean aunt unm, daughter of purser RN, b At Sea
Heather Kiddle servant 16
Elizabeth West servant 13

IGI extracted
Caroline Rebecca COLE
birth 12 dec 1829
christened 3 may 1830
Morrice st-Wesleyan, Devonport Devon
parents:
Henry Roland Cole  and Jane

ummm I wonder if his middle name was mistranscribed ...??

I need to find Henry R Cole in 1841 and 1851 ..I wonder if he was at sea?

deb :)

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 August 07 16:27 BST (UK) »
Hi again Michael

This is rather strange ...I cannot find the birt/christening of Jane Sedgwick LEAN. I have however found this in IGI (extracted records) ...which I believe are Jane's siblings ....

These are all children of FRANCIS LEAN and Rebecca, all born in Stoke Damerel, Devon.

Alice SEDGWICK Lean
born 5 Dec 1792
chr. 6 April  1796

Francis Lean
born 17 Oct 1795
chr. 6 April 1796

(Alice states on the 1861 census when she is living with her niece , Rebecca,  that she was born at sea ... note the 4 year gap from her birth to her christening!)
 
William Blinkhorn Lean
b 28 Sept 1797
chr. 10 Dec 1799

Rebecca SEDGWICK Lean
b 6 April 1799
chr. 10 Dec 1799

where is Jane ? ummm  ::)

I am still looking for a marriage of Francis Lean to a Rebecca . (I wonder where the Blinkhorn name comes from ?)

will be back
deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 August 07 16:32 BST (UK) »
Deb,

I'm amazed by the tons of information youi're giving to me!

Today is Friday, I'm very busy and I can't wait till tomorrow to begin studying all this data.

The Ethel Bridger side is very complete, thanks to Keith and the Lean Cole side is very promising!

Thanks very much, you're helping me a lot.

Regards,

Michael

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Re: Henry Roger COLE and descendants
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 August 07 16:36 BST (UK) »
Deb,

I found this on the Internet, maybe it helps.

>I am new to the list. Brian kindly looked up Cole on the 1851 Devon Census
>and found my family.
>
>However head of family is noted as being:
>
>COLE Jane A (should be Jane S) Occupation: Pensioners Wife RN
>Caroline R COLE daughter
>William J L COLE son
>Julia Jane COLE daughter
>
>Henry Roger Cole (Jane's husband) is not there which is no surprise as he
>was in Royal Navy.
>but he was alive in 1851 (he was witness to Julia Jane's wedding in 1857 to
>Stephen Henry MOORE) and also have Royal Navy records and extract of will
>1859.
>
>Question:
>Could Henry Roger Cole have been in receipt of a pension when alive? Did
>they get a pension if they were not in service at a particular time?
>
>Jane Sedgwick COLE's maiden name was LEAN.

Michael