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Offline Carliol

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Holywell Census 1851/1861 - James Hall
« on: Thursday 16 December 04 14:33 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to trace an ancestor - James Hall.

In April, 1857 he heckled the Right Hon. William Gladstone at a parliamentary election meeting held at the King's Head Hotel, Holywell. James is mentioned as "...of the Crescent Mill" in Holywell, so he might have been the owner of the mill.

I would be most grateful if someone could please look up the 1851/1861 Census for Holywell to see if James and his family appears.

Geoff Hall
Hall, Isherwood, Peel, Rushton, Bentley, Lee, Leyland, Lunn

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Re: Holywell Census 1851/1861 - James Hall
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 July 05 13:28 BST (UK) »
I am trying to trace an ancestor - James Hall.

In April, 1857 he heckled the Right Hon. William Gladstone at a parliamentary election meeting held at the King's Head Hotel, Holywell. James is mentioned as "...of the Crescent Mill" in Holywell, so he might have been the owner of the mill.

I would be most grateful if someone could please look up the 1851/1861 Census for Holywell to see if James and his family appears.

Geoff Hall

hello,
i think that i have found james in holywell for you. listed below:

1861 census
living at brynford st, holywell, flintshire

hester hall        head 72  born in newtown, montgomery   occ: proprietor of houses
ann hall            dau   45    "                  "                   "                       "              "
james hall         son  42    "                  "                    "       (says flannel or flour mill - unclear)
                                                                              manufacturer employing 75 hands

john hall           son 38    "                 "                     "              "             "             "
harriet davies  serv 16    "                  "                     "          general servant


it says flannel or flour mill for occupation, it is very squashed up and  unclear. i would lean towards flannel, because of the amount of personnel he employed.

with best wishes
from
felicity williams
                                                                                 

Offline nxf Afonwen N-Wales

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Re: Holywell Census 1851/1861 - James Hall
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 May 16 09:15 BST (UK) »
I have a little information on a James and brother John Hall.

In 1851 John was owner of the Upper Mill in Holywell and shortly afterwards was joined by brother James. About 1957 James purchased Mr Thomas Jones interest in the Crescent Mill (situated slightly downstream from the Upper Mill) and again was joined by brother John. I found this information from the "wandering" books of trips through Wales, and can find it if interested? whilst looking for information on William Evans who managed the Crescent Mill under the Hall brothers.

I am still researching the Crescent Mill and the Hall connection as the owners are more likely to get a mention than the manager.
Evans - Pandy Mill Afonwen / Newtown
Jones - Pandy Mill Afonwen / Ystrad Denbigh
Gilmours - Pandy Mill & Ddol Isaf Afonwen / Liverpool / Isle of Man