What Happend to Thomas NEWTON?

[deb usa]

Hi

Thanks for that Liz... it does make things clearer 

I am still looking for Thomas ... would you recheck the 1871 ( Thomas and Mary NEWTON with 2 children... Sarah and George) for me ... as I am still unsure of Thomas' place of birth. Earlier in this thread , I made mention of the writing next to POB ... it looked like NOTTS to me ...

What do you think ?

deb

[deb usa]

Hi

I think that maybe there was a mistake make on the 1901 where Agnes Maud and Charles James were written down as NEWTON instead of MUMFORD... This is all assumption of course as we do not have the 1911 to confirm this ..... (Jeezzz I wish 1911 was out  )....
anyway .. I found this marriage:

Charles James MUMFORD to either  Jessie Lacey or Mabel Neilson, Mar 1906 Plymouth Devon. Could not find a marriage for a Charles James Newton in Plymouth!

back to looking for Thomas ...

deb

[lizdb]

If you go to the National Archives site
at
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/

and click on the Royal Navy Personnel box, then key in Thomas Newton of Plymouth...

It comes up with 1 record of a CHARLES Thomas Newton in 1877.

Could this be him? He could certainly be a Charles, known as Thomas, that seems to run in the family! Might be worth £3-50 to see this document and see if it helps.

If it IS him, it means he was around when she married Mumford in 1873. Would also like to see her marriage certs!

[deb usa]

LIZ

I have ALSO been on National archives all morning looking for ANYTHING to do with this family ... LOL 

At the moment I am trying to find a birth registration for Thomas Newton b abt 1849 ...... There is one that comes up , but that Thomas was reg in Honiton , Devon . I see that Sutton in Ashfield is supposedly in Charles, Plymouth. I have never heard of it before

I will look at what you found ....

Liz , could you check the 1871 census for me ...re; Thomas Newton's POB..thanks

deb

[lizdb]

Sorry, dont have access to 1871, only the free stuff!!!!

I have been working on children's births. I know you have found some already, but here is my list of births of children who I reckon could be Mary's (working on the assumption that the Saunders children arrived with Mr S and left when he died)

All Plymouth

George Septimus Newton  AMJ 1868 5b 261
Sarah Susan J Newton JAS 1870 5b 246
Charles John Newton OND 1872 5b 243

CANT FIND CHARLES OR AGNES MUMFORD

Jane Bennett JFM 1883 5b 260
John Bennett JAS 1884 5b 260
Edith Harriett Bennett JFM 1886 5b 242
Alfred Cyril Bennett AMJ 1891 5b 285
Nellie Bennett OND 1894 5b 215

 

[Valley]

Hi All
Back on line at work, Thomas I thought was from Sutton in Ashfield app Derbyshire could be devon not sure. Again Thanks for helping with Mystery I went to kew but found nothing on Thomas Newton thought I may try again . Honiton is not far from Plymouth as the crow flys  . Charles John newton Married a lady called Florence Avery and went to Canada. he died 1924 of TB been in contact with reletive there and she says she has photos of mary and all her children says she will mail them to me,
Val

[deb usa]

Hi

births:

Agnes Maud Mumford
Jun q 1874 Plymton St Mary devon

then there si this:
Charles James MUMFORD
Dec q 1875
Plymton
ummm maybe too old for our Charles

James Charles C Mumford
Mar 1878
Plymton
date is good , but name swapped around .. 

I will check the censuses again ..to see POB's for both again

deb

[lizdb]

Back to the original question of what happened to Thomas, I would say the next move would be to get Mary's marriage cert to Mumford:

Jan/Feb/Mar 1873 Plymouth.
Mary Newton to Charles Mumford
(Charles!!Now there's a surprise!)

ref 5b 407

and see what SHE says happened to Thomas (ie does she say 'widow' or somethimg else?)

[deb usa]

sorry forgot to add Thomas Newton

birth reg: Thomas Newton
sept 1849 Honiton, Devon
vol 10 pg 103

deb