Hi Val
I have been waiting for you LOL ...2 days after the 5th ... not bad! I just reread a little of this thread again , just to update myself ...

Re: Mary Blackler :
We have the correct family (see earlier posts) where she is living with her dad, George , a quarry man and she has a brother James , b c 1856, who was most probably the witness to her 2nd marriage to Charles Mumford.
Now it seems that we have got to find Thomas NEWTON"s death between 1872 (when the last Newton child was conceived) and 1st Quarter 1873, when Mary married CHARLES Mumford.
ummm a thought has just come to me .... Mary named her last child from Thomas Newton ...CHARLES ... I wonder if .... umm...no I won't go there....

I will look for a death for Thomas Newton again.....
can't wait for the death certs to arrive
deb