What Happend to Thomas NEWTON?

[Valley]

Hi Deb

Reply from channel Island Look up
No births reg 1854/55/56 in UK and wont find anything on Channel Islands because did not start till after them dates, still seems odd why they were there cant imagin mum went to Channel Islands have son then come back maybe he was not there son  quite a lot of Blacklers there on there cencus will check them for a James Blackler around that time.

Val

[deb usa]

Hi Val and Liz and everyone reading

Where are the certs ? ...I came across a marriage today for a James Blackler ... , brought me back to this thread ..... VAL ...I am so impatient 

deb

[Valley]

Hi Everyone

Still waiting can't wait much longer getting umm impatient now others came quite quick hope today or tomorrow so I have been told.
Have not done much o Blacklers except James (channel Islands) Who did he marry and when interesting.
I have looked at convicts to Australia and the free pardons but they were all before Thomas left the picture.
Maybe it is him that I have sent for odd odd odd.
Will be in touch as soon as they pop through the door.

Val

[Valley]

Hi Deb and everyone

Not got certs yet hope today otherwise it will be Monday getting impatient now want to know as soon as arrive will post

Val

[Valley]

Hi they are here but still unsure

1) Thomas newton- Radford Nottingham - Coal Miner? 31/01/1872 25 years cause of death SMALLPOX lived 11 days, present at death Emma Not Newton unreadable

2) Charles F Mumford - Plympton st Mary - 6/3/79 Quarryman looks like chest trouble had for 3 months present at death John Mumford Brother

3) Richard Saunders - Plymouth 14/6/1881  in South Devon Hospital Age 35 years - Labourer - Died from effects of a fall from Ladder or window sill interval between fall and death 13 hrs coroner death cert issued. Inquest held June 14 1881. No person listed next of kin present at death.

Well there you have it not sure about any of them Cant rem if Charles had brother John on cencus earlier in thred will check that one.

Val

 

[Valley]

Hi again

Did seem to have Brother John

Here is Charles in 1841

Plymstock

James MUMFORD 35 quarryman
Agness Mumford 40
CHARLES  " 10
James       "  8
John         "   6
Thomas     "  4

[lizdb]

So our Mary is conspicously absent when he comes to registering her husbands deaths.

A variety of causes of death, seems like she was just unlucky.

Does it give home address for them? That might help determine if we have the right guys.

[Valley]

Hi
No address for Richard Saunders - South Devon Hospital Plymouth

Charles Mumford only got Oreston Plymstock

Thomas cannot make out the address Sub District Snenton Nottingham also looks like Emma Parr or Farr present at death will look into that one.

Val

[deb usa]

Hi

At last ......

Well I am a little dissappointed ..I expected "death after drinking poisoned tea "  sorry ..no offence meant

What worries me about Thomas Newtons death ..is that he is a 'coal miner' ..and not a mariner/sailor etc ..
Also if he was sick for 11 days prior to death ... that would make him sick starting around the 21 jan 1872 ...Charles Newton, his son was born Dec q 1872...say Thomas was in Notts beginning of jan ...that would be pushing it that he was the father of Charles ......

ummmm
I wonder who Emma Farr/Parr was ....will look further

deb