MacKenzie's of Fodderty and Ullapool

[Gadget]

Hi Chris

It's the Parish of St Giles in the Fields:

http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/StGilesInTheFields/index.html

Also, I think it is Rose Street with one of those strange 'e' forms that looks like a small capital letter. I do them at the end of a word, although I do normal ones within words 


Gadget

PS - 13 Crown Street is the other address

[kasha]

Hi Chris,

The Harris families living in Rose Street in the 1841 are:

6 Rose Street:
   Michael Harris 40 Tailor, born in this county,
   Mary 30
   John 10
   Mary 8
   Thomas 5
   James 3
   William 5 mths

7 Rose Street:
   James Harris 35 Bootmaker, not born in this county,
   Mary 45
   William 12
   Eliza 15
   Sophia 9
   Emma 6

Neither of these families are at the same addresses in the 1851 but I haven't checked the whole of Rose Street yet. The third family turns out to be Haines not Harris.

Kasha

[kasha]

Hi again Chris,

Just checked Crown Street in the 1841 census. You may already have this.

Living at 13, Crown Street:

George Harris 60 Saddletree Maker
Elizabeth 45
George 11
Elizabeth 20 Sempstress
Mary 14
all born same county

21 Crown Street:
George Harris 35, Smith, b same county

36 Crown Street:
Anne Harris 35, 'wife of G. Harris Page 17' , not b same county

Hope it helps,

Kasha

[chrislb]

Hi Kasha,

I don't think that any of those Harris's are connected to our James.  At least not closely although it is possible that the 60 yr old George may be an uncle.  Does the record indicate where he is from? In 1841 James' dad (Gregory) and brothers were still living in Hatfield Peveral Essex.

BTW did you know that there is a marriage on record at SP for a James McKenzie and Janet Reid?  Married in 1807 (in Cromarty) if I recall correctly.  This James and Janet McKenzie had a son Alexander born in 1817 in Cromarty.  Could this be your Alexander?  I don't know if they had any other children. 

My Elizabeth McKenzie is still a bit of a mystery.  The closest I can come to her is an Eliza born in May 1807 to a James McKenzie (Mason) and Margaret, formerly Bain.  This couple had 2 other daughters that I know of, or was it 3??

Ciao!!

[kasha]

Hi Chris,

As you probably know the 1841 census does not state where born. But there is a column to record if a particular person was born in the county in which they were residing in 1841.

In the case of George Harris, 60, residing at 13 Crown Street there is a Y in this column - meaning yes, he was born in Middlesex. As were his wife and children.

Thanks for the James McKenzie/Janet Reid information. I will check it out but I think there are hundreds of father James/ son Alexander McKenzie combinations out there waiting to trip me up.

Kasha

[RSMACL]

Can I butt in here with a query on a McKenzie from R. & C.
MARY MCKENZIE of Ferrintosh, Killearnan Parish, Ross-shire, b. Urquhart c.1799, was married in Lewiston, near Drumnadrochit, in Jan. 1820 to MALCO(L)M MCDONALD, Widower, House carpenter, supposedly born 1795 (but could be earlier, in order to accommodate his first marriage) - birthplace unknown. They had two known children:
1. MURDOCH MCDONALD, b. 1820-1 Glen Urquhart, m.  Dec. 1846 to Christina Urquhart, b. 1822 Ferrintosh, Killearnan Parish. Had 7 children, all born in Cullicudden, Resolis.
2. WILLIAM HUGHIN MCDONALD b. 1825, Urquhart, no other known details. 
This is a huge brick wall, which I have been unable to surmount!!
(My husband John MacLeod, formerly of Inverness, is descended through his mother's line from the third child of Murdoch and Christy's marriage  - Malcolm McDonald - who in 1833 married Martha Matheson (b. `1857 in Resolis) in Loch Carron, and lived for a time at Strome Ferry.)
Any help with early Malcom McDonald and Mary McKenzie???

[dmackenzie]

RSMACL,
Any further info on your Christina Urquhart? I also have one in my tree, but b 1820 in Urquhart and Logie Wester (same general area as yours). Parents James and Christina (Christian) Cameron. Not going to be a sibling, but perhaps a cousin? Urquhart's were pretty thick on the ground though in that part of the Black Isle then.

My Christian Urquhart married George MacKenzie (gg-granddad), whose the son of John MacKenzie and Ann McKay in my original posting.

Cheers
Darryl

[dingwall]

Hi,
I saw your posts about McKenzies, specifically Janet McKenzie who may be the same Janet McKenzie b. abt 1782 who married Alexander (or John, conflicting data) Dingwall.  Their son Murdoch Dingwall was b. 15 Jan 1805 at the Height of Keppoch in Fodderty.  (Parish records name his father as Alexander.)  Murdoch married Mary Dingwall (maiden name) 30 May 1831 in Fodderty, and they immigrated to Ontario, Canada, around 1842.  After the death of her husband in Scotland in the 1860s, Janet joined Murdoch's family in Carluke, a small community near Ancaster, Ontario.  She died there 12 Jan 1877, age 94, and is buried at the Carluke Red Brick Presbyterian Cemetery.

If you think this is your Janet McKenzie, and would like information about Murdoch's family, let me know.

Tricia Dingwall Thompson

[dmackenzie]

Hi Tricia,
Sorry, our Janet MacKenzie was born 1826. You had me getting excited there for a moment!

I actually now suspect that our Janet may have had an illegitimate son, Roderick MacKenzie, b. abt 1851. In the 1851 census Janet was with her parents (John and Ann) in the Heights of Keppoch along with an infant child. In later census' I've found Janet's sister Catherine living with her nephew Roderick who is the right age to be the infant from 1851. Haven't got around to tracking this possibility down though.

Happy hunting!

Cheers
Darryl