ANSELL - Deaths - Abt. 1850

[cheshiremog]

Dear Sarah
I have re-checked deaths page by page for 1849 to 1851 looking for a William Ansell who either died in Derby or Ware or even Wandsworth but none are listed dying in those districts.  Several deaths for Williams are recorded but the only death registered in Herts is one at Hitchin 1849 Q3 Vol 6 page 383.

Hitchin is about 12 miles or 23 km from Ware

Why his death would have been registered in Hitchin and why his mothers may have registered in Wandsworth - is odd but there are no deaths listed that seem any closer to their Derby or Herts connections.

I have checked out the Herts FHS site and they have created a CD of MIs Monumental (gravestone) transcriptions.  If you post your question on the Herts board maybe a kind rootschatter will be able to look up the MIs for you ?

Mog

[cheshiremog]

Dear rjknott
If you look at FreeBMD statistics you will see that deaths Q1 1850 is finished as is Q2 & Q3 some of Q4 still incomplete. I have however checked the actual source pages and there is no Louisa Ansell listed in 1850Q1 or a William so they are definitely not there.
To check out freebmd progress go to freebmd home page and look at statistics then coverage

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/progressD.shtml#1850

[cheshiremog]

Dear Sarah
Sorry to forgot to answer your earlier question

Louisa's death is listed as:-

1850 Q2 (April - Jun) Louisa Ansell Wandsworth &C  Vol 4 Page 364

Yes she is definitely listed as Louisa

[Richard Knott]

If you look at FreeBMD statistics you will see that deaths Q1 1850 is finished as is Q2 & Q3 some of Q4 still incomplete. I have however checked the actual source pages and there is no Louisa Ansell listed in 1850Q1 or a William so they are definitely not there.
To check out freebmd progress go to freebmd home page and look at statistics then coverage

http://www.freebmd.rootsweb.com/progressD.shtml#1850

I am aware of that. I'm not suggesting that the index hasn't been transcribed. I am suggesting that the records may not have been transferred from Derby to the central index.
It may be worth contacting the Derby office.

Richard

[cheshiremog]

Dear RJk
Can this happen?
And is it common ?
I have not come across it before
mog

[Richard Knott]

I have certainly come across cases where registrations in the local office have not made it onto the central register - I seem to remember a posting about some Yorkshire (Huddersfield?) entries a few months ago - but I don't know how common it is.

Looking again at freebmd, it probably hasn't happened in this case, as there are some Derby entries for A-F where the first name isn't William. It is just a statistical freak with the Williams.

Richard

[toni*]

my two pennies worth

Do you think it is possible that William died in Derbyshire and Louisa obviously bereaved returned to London possibly to visit family taking the other son and died there?

Surname Variants:~
Ansel Ancel/l Ansal/l

[cheshiremog]

Dear Toni - I could not find a William dying in Derbyshire area in that time period.
I also think it is possible Louisa returned to her family in Herts and died there.
However rjk's idea that some deaths for Derby may not have been passed over has made me think again and realise how careful we all have to be before coming to conclusions.  I suppose anything is possible with human error.  However as RJK says it now may be just a statistical glich as I have found Allsworth's passed over for Derby and Astle's and Ashby's for that qtr - so maybe there were no Derby deaths in that qtr for Ansell ?

Well I hope that the ideas we have all come up with has helped Sarah

mog

[sillgen]

Deaths in Ware should come under Hertford Registraton district.   I don't recall seeing any relevant ones when I searched earlier today but may have missed them.  I think there was another Louisa in London as well as the Wandsworth one but stupidly did not note the reference.   It would certainly be worth searching the name variants Toni has come up with.
Andrea