Coleman of Long Clawson 1841, 51 or 61

[Jarv]

Hello, I am trying to trace our family tree for my Granddad who at 85 probably knows all the people I have found by myself. I need help going back a bit further.

From the 1901 census I found the household to be residing at "East End, The Hall" in Long Clawson. The head of the household was William(59), his wife Mary(51) and children Thurman(26) both John(12) all single and living at home with Williams brother Beaumont(56) and wife Catherine Butterfield(53). There was another son William who was born in 1872 and 9 during the 1881 census but I assume he died before the 1901 census as he's not there.

Anyway, I am trying to find William's father and is possible grandfather but have not been able to delve any further back. He was born in Long Clawson around 1841/42 so may have missed the census of 1841. Any info from earlier than 1881 may show William's father and possibly further back?

I don't mind doing the work myself I just don't know where best to look and I have been living in Boston, USA since Feb which doesn't help!

[alisontoon]

Hi Jarv,

There is a William Coleman (30)  and his wife Mary (22) , plus a sister, Kate Coleman aged 16, in the 1871 census. They are living in the civil parish of "Clawson".

They had 4 servants and 7 visitors present on the day of the census:

Mary Bissill 34  Yorkshire, England Visitor  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Thomas Bissill 30  Leicestershire, England Visitor  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Joseph Burnham 12  Leicestershire, England Servant  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Kate Coleman 16  Leicestershire, England Sister  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Mary Coleman 22  Leicestershire, England Wife  Clawson  Leicestershire   
William Coleman 30  Leicestershire, England Head  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Sarah Edgsom 26  Leicestershire, England Servant  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Sarah Hill 17  Leicestershire, England Visitor  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Charles Radcliffe 31  Yorkshire, England Visitor  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Smith Radcliffe 28  Yorkshire, England Visitor  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Jane Smith 16  Leicestershire, England Servant  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Anne Stokes 22  Leicestershire, England Visitor  Clawson  Leicestershire   
George Stokes 40  Nottinghamshire, England Visitor  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Matthew Winters 17  Leicestershire, England Servant  Clawson  Leicestershire   
 
 I hope they had a big house!  :-)

Alison

[alisontoon]

Also in "Clawson", separate household, in the 1871 census (it's a pretty small place and the dairy there makes excellent white stilton cheese... which magically turns into blue stilton if you leave it out of the fridge!):

Barbara Coleman 32  Leicestershire, England Head  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Frank T Coleman 7  Bedfordshire, England Son  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Rose Emily Coleman 5  Nottinghamshire, England Daughter  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Susannah Hand 17  Leicestershire, England Servant  Clawson  Leicestershire   
Tom Tinsley 16  Leicestershire, England Servant  Clawson  Leicestershire   
 

[alisontoon]

And a third family, this time in Hose, which is about a mile down the road from Long Clawson--including an older William:

Hanh Chamber 54  Leicestershire, England Servant  Hose  Leicestershire   
Thos B Coleman 24  Leicestershire, England Head  Hose  Leicestershire   
William Coleman 63  Leicestershire, England Visitor  Hose  Leicestershire   
Saml Harris 18  Leicestershire, England Servant  Hose  Leicestershire   
Mary Mayon 35  Leicestershire, England Visitor  Hose  Leicestershire   

[alisontoon]

... and something else again :-D  this time from the Leicester and Rutland History, Gazetteer and Directory of 1863.

"The Duke of Rutland is lord of the manor, but a great part of the soil belongs to ... .... William and J. T. Coleman, ...."

Then listed under Farmers are William Coleman and John T. Coleman.

You might find this reference or others through the website that's listed on this site under "Leicestershire Directories", there are several directories that you can search online.

:-)

Alison

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting's.....

1851. INDEX ONLY Census...

Vol. 25.

430. . . .Long Clawson.

William Coleman. 42.
Ann. Wife. 34.
Thurman. Son.12.
William. Son. 9.

431. . . Long Clawson.

Edward Coleman.Son. 7.
Mary. Dau. 5.
Beaumont. Son. 3.
Ann. 2.

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1841. Scanned Images of Census.

HO107 / 587 /12 /Page 23.& 23a.
East End Long Clawson ( Early Village name=Claxton )

William Coleman.30. Farmer Not born within the County.
Ann. Wife. 25. Born within the County.
John Coleman. Son. 2. (page 23a. )

Hannah Chamberlain. 25. female servant..
Catherine Back. 15. female servant.
Michael Fisher. 25. Ag lab.
John Miller. 15. Ag. Lab.
James Clayton. 14. Ag. lab.

All but William Born with in the County of
Leicestershire.

Hope this is of help to you....

MIKE.

[Mike from Leicester]

Scan No. One.

[Mike from Leicester]

Scan Two Page 23a.

Interesting see the name of the next door Farmer

John Thurman. 80. Farmer. .....

[Jarv]

Thank you both very much! I have seen wedding records on the Long Clawson village site and putting numbers together it seems that Anne Stokes is married to George and the daughter of William.

The name John and Thurman seem pretty common in my family (not Thurman so much anymore!) I wonder if the 80 year old farmer is a relation? Hope so as he goes back to 1761!