Joseph Grimbley where are you???

[bluewhoopi]

Hi - I recently received the marriage cert for my great grand uncle Stephen Atkinson who married a widow named Mary Sarvus at St James Church, Shoreditch on 30 July 1861. Stephen is listed as a Mariner, which sounds rather romantic...
No ages given for either but both 'of full age'. Is that 18?
Anyway, I've spent a long time looking for the record of Mary's first marriage to Mr Sarvus - with  spectacular lack of success. Likewise the death record of said Mr Sarvus. Mary's maiden name was Grimbley (that's what it looks like but it could equally well be Grumbley!). Her father was Joseph Grimbley/Grumbley whose occupation is given as Hatter or Flatter. The cert is difficult to read. I rather think it is Flatter. I can find no trace of Joseph Gr*mbley on any census or anywhere else. Any advice please? Sorry to be a pain but I don't understand why these folk are not listed anywhere - except I'm looking in the wrong place yes?

[nanny jan]

Hi,

Are you able to scan and post those parts of the certificate that are hard to read?   There are some very good  "readers" on RootsChat!

Full age would mean over 21.

Nanny Jan

[bluewhoopi]

Hi,

Are you able to scan and post those parts of the certificate that are hard to read?   There are some very good  "readers" on RootsChat!

Full age would mean over 21.

Nanny Jan

Thanks for that Nanny Jan. I've tried a couple of times to post the scan of Joseph's name on the marriage cert but I keep getting a message saying an error has occurred. I'll have a tinker about to see whether I can fix the prob.

[Eyesee]

Not sure if you have Stephen and Mary in 1881 - RG11; Piece: 506; Folio: 120; Page: 48
17 Sidney St, All Saints Poplar
Stephen ATKINSON, head mar 41, Engineer, born Surrey, Rotherhithe
Mary ATKINSON, wife mar 50, born Yorkshire, Wakefield
Henry SARVUS, stepson unm 30, Labourer, born Surrey, Bermondsey (indexed as SARRET)
Stephen ATKINSON, son unm 20, Engine driver, born ditto

back to 1871 - RG10; Piece: 558; Folio: 52; Page: 25
3 1/2 Heath Street, Mile End Old Town
Mary Ann ATKINSON, wife mar 40, born Yorkshire, Wakefield
Henry G ATKINSON, son unm 20, Labourer in docks, born Surrey, Bermondsey
Stephen ATKINSON, son 9, Scholar, born ditto

Ian C

[Eyesee]

Elvina Augusta SARRUS, birth Jun qtr 1846, Bermondsey, 4 12 (Death Jun 1847, Bermondsey)
Eusebe Joseph SARRUS, birth Sep qtr 1848, Bermondsey, 4 2
Henry SARRUS, birth Dec qtr 1850, Bermondsey, 4 16
Alfred SARRUS, birth Sep qtr 1857, Bermondsey, 1d 58
There was an Emma as well

In 1861 Henry aged 10 and Joseph aged 13 were at Sutton District Metropolitan School in Surrey.

Ian C

[bluewhoopi]

Thank you so much Eyesee.
Since posting this morning I have found Stephen and Mary on the 1881 census but I couldn't find them in 1871, that's very helpful.
I'm not sure of the significance of the Sarrus entry although the Henry Sarrus b1850 cd well be the right one.
Thanks again.
I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong with the scan I took of Joseph Grimbley/Grumbley's name from his daughter's m/cert, as I'm sure if folks could see it I'd have some good suggestions as to what the surname actually is. But I keep getting that stupid error message.  :-[Hey ho....Pat.

[Eyesee]

Found them

Mary Ann GUMBLEY married Eusebe SARRISS, Mar qtr 1845, Bermondsey, 4 388.

Definitely them, despite the various spellings of the surname.

Ian C

[bluewhoopi]

MY HERO!!!!

Thank you so very much Ian, you are a gent.
Now I don't have to bother with the scan. Gumbley eh - now there's a name to conjure with. Sounds like something from Monty Python, although if memory serves that was Gumby wasn't it?

Thanks again, Pat.