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Offline SeaThreePeeO

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Re: Big Problem - signing in to Ancestry free access sites
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 22 July 07 21:21 BST (UK) »
Oh piddle!  This has really sunk me.  I used to browse the BMD during the times I was waiting to save up enough money to buy some credits.  Unfortunately I'm not in the position to afford a subscription to Ancestry.  :'(

Edited to add:  Maybe Ancestry.co.uk should remove the word Free from the BMD section lists now
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Re: Big Problem - signing in to Ancestry free access sites
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 22 July 07 21:29 BST (UK) »
The partial BMD is still free.

If there is anything else with which we might assist you, please let us know.

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Nope it's telling me I have to pay if I want to view the Partial BMD as well  :'(
Hannah - Isle of Man, Kensington.  Cousins - Northamptonshire, Kensington.  Poulsum - Monmouthshire.  Carpenter - Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Surrey, Kent, Hertfordshire.  Turner - Berkshire.  Vincent - Wiltshire.  Beachus - Wales

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Re: Big Problem - signing in to Ancestry free access sites
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 22 July 07 21:46 BST (UK) »
this has really upset me i have just been using the bmd index lately to find things for certs and now  it would not even be worth me subscribing to ancestry

it is sad how this will efect so many people because of one persons greed
well goodbye Ancestry for me  :(

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Re: Big Problem - signing in to Ancestry free access sites
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 22 July 07 22:09 BST (UK) »
Putting in my 2 cents.

Ancestry was providing a service that was FREE. It was affording people the luxury of surfing through the GRO index at 2am in their nightie while eating chocolate cake and drinking a G&T....if that is what they wanted to do....I prefer vodka and orange!

As a business, they have made a decision to include that portion of their service into their subscriptions.  The GRO index is still FREE at your local library or Records Center or if you are in another part of the world you can view the index at a LDS Family History Center.

If you want to see more of the GRO index for FREE, then I would suggest that you sign up and start transcribing with FreeBMD. I have been transcribing for FreeCen and have already done over 10,000 names......so...I am doing my bit.

I think Ancestry provides a great SERVICE.....warts and all!

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Re: Big Problem - signing in to Ancestry free access sites
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 22 July 07 23:55 BST (UK) »
From : http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/FAQ.html#9

11. Could the database ever be used to create a commercial product or service?

No. The ONS granted the right to place the database on the Internet on the condition that access to it be free of charge. Any commercialisation of the database would require the ONS' prior and very improbable authorisation.


For what it's worth I hope that Ancestry will back down on this; given their usual cock-ups on updates i wouldn't be at all surprised to find out they 'got it wrong'.
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« Reply #50 on: Monday 23 July 07 00:28 BST (UK) »
From : http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/FAQ.html#9

11. Could the database ever be used to create a commercial product or service?

No. The ONS granted the right to place the database on the Internet on the condition that access to it be free of charge. Any commercialisation of the database would require the ONS' prior and very improbable authorisation.


For what it's worth I hope that Ancestry will back down on this; given their usual cock-ups on updates i wouldn't be at all surprised to find out they 'got it wrong'.

This surely relates to freeBDM, not the full indexes. 1837online started years ago charging to view the images (and cost me a fortune while I learned about the English system) - and other sites now charge. I believe it will all be irrelevant within a year when the GRO provides new indexes - meanwhile something that was free is no longer free - very sad and the usual commercial option.

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Re: Big Problem - signing in to Ancestry free access sites
« Reply #51 on: Monday 23 July 07 01:08 BST (UK) »
Hi MarieC,

Surely there is no way any transcriptions could be less accurate than Ancestry's  ;D

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Re: Big Problem - signing in to Ancestry free access sites
« Reply #52 on: Monday 23 July 07 03:20 BST (UK) »
The partial BMD is still free.

http://ancestryuk.custhelp.com/

Nope it's telling me I have to pay if I want to view the Partial BMD as well  :'(

Use the direct link to freeBDM - I like the format better than the one on Ancestry - and it is often more up to date

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Re: Big Problem - signing in to Ancestry free access sites
« Reply #53 on: Monday 23 July 07 07:56 BST (UK) »
Sorry, but some of these posts have put my back up. I agree that Ancestry could have given advance warning that they were going to withdraw the free access. However, from another point of view, I think many subscribers were annoyed about the free access. I have a full subscription to Ancestry (US records as well), and given that for the last few months I've used the BMD indexes far more than any other records, I was beginning to wonder what I was paying for. The annual fee does not work out at good value for money if you apply it to records other than the full BMD indexes.

I know a lot of peope are saying that withdrawing the free services is unfair, but at the end of the day, what you are losing is a free service which gives you the ability to search records in the comfort and convenience of your own home. The indexes are still available to be searched for free. There's also the point that with the way Ancestry were running things, the cost of providing that 'free' service was being subsidised by paying members.

I appreciate that many people can't afford to subscribe to Ancestry, and I'm sorry. I have other interests where I have to restrict my involvement because of cost - but that's life. Genealogy is NOT a cheap hobby, but at the end of the day many records are available to access free of charge. Yes, there is an associated cost, either of paying to view those records online, or travelling to view the records themselves. Unfortunately, which ever option  people are going to use, they don't have the right to expect those costs to be subsidised by other enthusiasts.

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