George Gardner

[tidybooks]

Hi Barry,

I did not think it possible to trace the actions of an ancestor so long ago with so much description. That fits in perfectly with everything else we have found. I am so glad to have been part of this search.

Do we have a date of death for George Gardiner and has he a suitable MI at his resting place?

Tom

PS You must be proud

[Gadget]

This is weird - a typical gender split. Here I am thinking we've got George Gardner sorted and I'm interested in Selina Wathen and her line and you three are into soldiers and battles 

Gadget 

[tidybooks]

Hi Gadget,

Sorry if I came over sexist, never been involved with a person of historical status before. Yes I am just as interested in Selina, but I think the problem is military records and how are the births, marriages and deaths sent back to poor old blighty when posted abroad.

I am not sure if Selina, who was born of British Army parents in Dublin would have been registered in the Republic. I think these records may still be lurking about in National Archives, or similar.

Tom

[Gadget]

Oh, I wasn't accusing anyone of being sexist, Tom. I just thought it was interesting that, although I find the Battle of Balaclava interesting and to have someone there is even more interesting, I also want to know about the John Wathen.

I noticed that Arfur Mo said that as an 'ordinary' soldier he didn't feature in any lists. That is sad. How many ordinary soldiers died in that battle and never featured in the lists?

Selina was born in Maidstone not Dublin. She and George married in Dublin.

Gadget 

[tidybooks]

Hi Gadget,
I know you werent accusing me of being sexist. It was'nt the soldier thing but the fact that he took part in the Charge of the Light Brigade.

Just to prove it, she was missing in 1881 census, but I have found her, suspect visiting her sister, at 91 Bondgate Darlington , not too far from Northallerton. At 91 Bondgate was James P Peacock, a doctor and his wife Isabella nee Warren ( could that be Wathen and her sister). They married in Edinburgh 07 Jun 1867   Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, I suspect when they wre both students.

Tom
 
 

[tidybooks]

Hi Gadget,

Here is 1881 census details for Selina E Gardner: -

At 91 Bondgate, Darlington on 1881 census,

James Baillie Peacock 42 b 1839 Leeds Gen Practice Doctor
Isabella Jane Peacock 31 b 1850 Ireland
George Gardner Peacock 11 b 1870 Northallerton Yorks Scholar
Selina Wathen Peacock 10 b 06 Apr 1871 Northallerton (not present)
Daisy Elizabeth Dewsbury Peacock 8 b 18 Aug 1872 Northallerton
Carine Ida Peacock 7 b 03 Jun 1874 Northallerton
Joy G Peacock 5 b 1876 Darlington Durham
Selina Elizabeth Gardner 46 b 1845 Maidstone Kent.

I think the 2 highlighted names determine the correct family.

Tom

[Gadget]

Hi Tom

Very interesting - particularly the ages that they both give. Selina appears to be 46 in 1881 - b.c. 1835. This makes her 12 when she married    But it's definiely her - born Maidstone, etc.

Not sure about them being sisters though as there is a very (real) age gap.  However, I think the marriage ref is wong because she is down as being 30 in 1867 and James is 33. James is a flour carter and she is a domestic servant 

Gadget

[Gadget]

Hi again

I think we posted very close together. I thought you had just posted the census details but I see you also included the childrens full names. They are sisters - telling porkies about their ages -  but the marriage ref that you found is not them.  Maybe the married in England - possibly Yorkshire.

Gadget

[tidybooks]

Hi Gadget,

I thought you had nodded off, James B Peacock was a doctor who got his degree and MRCS at Edinburgh, in 1967 he was 28, possibly just finished at Royal College of Surgeons. Young Isabella would have been 17, a bit young, but the birth in Ireland could tie up with her Dad serving there.

Tom

PS Never digested "However, I think the marriage ref is wong because she is down as being 30 in 1867 and James is 33. James is a flour carter and she is a domestic servant "  Cannot be them.