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Some help with place names?
« on: Saturday 04 August 07 15:08 BST (UK) »
Hello. I have and Elizabeth married to Joseph Copeland whose place of birth in the 1861 census is  given as Attrick Cumberland  and in the 1851 as Uttrick. The only place that I can find which might fit is Ettrick in Scotland but would be grateful if anyone with a better knowledge of Cumberland could shed some light? Her husband was born in Wetheral (I think! difficult writing in census) and her sons in Hesket before they moved to Durham.  ??? :DThank you Maggie
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Re: Some help with place names?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 August 07 17:20 BST (UK) »
Quote from: mhrjh14 on Saturday 04 August 07 15:08 BST (UK)
and in the 1851 as Uttrick.

1851 census seems to give the birthplaces of Joseph and Eliz COUPLAND as Wedrel

I agree 1861 says Attrick - no idea where it could be.
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Re: Some help with place names?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 August 07 17:25 BST (UK) »
Yes I saw Wedrel but assumed it was Wetheral...is there a Wedrel?
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Re: Some help with place names?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 August 07 17:58 BST (UK) »
hi maggie
i have looked on local maps of cumbria and there are no such places as attrick or uttrick. there is a village called wetheral about 5 miles from carlisle if you go to www.visitcumbria.com you will be able to see photos and info on village i hope this helps a little
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Re: Some help with place names?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 August 07 18:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you...yes I've seen that :D
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Re: Some help with place names?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 August 07 18:04 BST (UK) »
I have been through Old maps and no such places

This is a good site www.old-maps.co.uk

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whats happened here not come up highlighted
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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth

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Re: Some help with place names?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 August 07 18:04 BST (UK) »
woops it has

Elizabeth
McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,East Hollywell.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns Brechin.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland. Stark's Kyloe & Tweedmouth .Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth

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Re: Some help with place names?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 August 07 18:14 BST (UK) »
1861 image clearly says Wetheral.  I expect Attrick is a small hamlet somewhere in that area.   They obviously lived there for a while as the first children were born in that area too.
I cannot find a large scale map of that bit - every other area in the country just about but not there!
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Re: Some help with place names?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 August 07 18:19 BST (UK) »
Thank you Elizabeth. Great site ...my husband loves old maps so will be delighted with it!. Thanks for your comment Andrea...I did wonder if there was a place called something like Attrick or Uttrick in the area...maybe a local person would know? ...but as the census was taken in Durham where they wouldn't know Cumbria then the ennumerator may have just written what he thought he heard and it could be anywhere!! I can't find any records of the christening of Joseph though the Wetherel records are on the IGI....maybe they were non-conformist? Oh well.... :(
Maggie
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