Kenn or Yatton - NETHWAY

[yattonharry]

Hackstaple,
Could you let me have the census references please?  I would really like to look at this and see if it is the same on as I have.

Thanks

YattonHarry

[kcstadium]

Hello Hackstaple
Seen the replies, not sure how far you are on, can't help on Eliza but hope following helps:-
Mary Mason (www.portbury-hundred.co.uk) has Kenn Baptisms 1800-1812, no mention of NETHWAY but records very thin so perhaps not totally transcribed?
She also has Yatton Baptisms 1800-1812 (no NETHWAY's) and 1813-1820 transcribed.
I have St. Mary's Yatton Baptisms transcribed by Weston Super Mare FHS 1813-1825 (vol 1) 1826-1837 (Vol 2) & 1838-1851 (Vol 3)
In Vol 1 there are 8 NETHWAY Baptisms
Vol 2 None!!
Vol 3 there are 6 NETHWAY Baptisms
It appears your Eliza was not baptised in Yatton, but possibly Kenn (incomplete transcriptions?)
If you don't have and need individual baptism details from St. Mary's Yatton 1813-1851 let me know
Regards
Bryan
PS - St. Mary's Yatton still have original parish registers! Been there a couple of times on my ancestors (Avery's originating from Yatton mid 17th c.

[Hackstaple]

KC - thanks. We see Eliza, married to Henry Damry. born Somerset on the 1841 census, age 30. Eliza appears to be a popular Nethway name. My cousin spent some months trying to find her origins and any trace of her before her 1829 marriage. A variety of partial clues caused him to believe she came from Kenn or Yatton.

We cannot reconcile her with any of the earlier births as she had a 3 year old child in 1851. That is more consistent with a birth in 1811 than 1801. Of course, one must always take into account illegitimate grandchildren being described as Daughter or Son of the householder.

The name Damary variously appears as Damry, Demry and Demery before the first named spelling became standard in our family. Eliza is likely to have had a sister named Thamar who married William Fitch 11/6/1823 at Wanstead. Thamar was probably older - born C. 1804.

We have had contact with the charming Mary Mason who could not throw more light.

[yattonharry]

Hackstaple,
I really want to help you with this, so can you send me the census reference please?

You wrote:-
We see Eliza, married to Henry Damry. born Somerset on the 1841 census, age 30. Eliza appears to be a popular Nethway name. My cousin spent some months trying to find her origins and any trace of her before her 1829 marriage.
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Her age at 30 in the 1841 census does not mean that she was actually 30 years old.  All Adults over the age of 15 years  - if the enumerator abided by the rules set for him - had their ages rounded down to the nearest 5.  Your Eliza therefore could have been between 30 and 35 and would appear as 30.

She could have been born anywhere between 1806 [if actually 35 in 1841] and 1811 if she was 30.  And that is IF she knew her actual age anyhow and gave the correct one too. There are loads of 'ifs' that you have to take account of. 

You also say: Thamar was probably older - born C. 1804. - so your Eliza was younger than her???

I reckon she belongs to the Yatton/Kenn family myself.

YattonHarry

[yattonharry]

Made an error here I think and arrived at duplicate messages.  Please ignore - perhaps Admin will delete?

Thanks YH

[Hackstaple]

Sorry, my error. 1841 census records for the Paddington area are not available. We have them Henry and Eliza Damry in 1851 HO107/1467. Eliza is then shown as 50 but with a 3 year old child.

Eliza died in 1853.

Thamar Nethway married William Fitch at Wanstead 11 Jun 1823 [IGI]. We would not have associated these two ladies for sure but she and her husband were both dead by 1851 leaving their eldest daughter, Charlotte to mother various children. Charlotte and a younger sister appear with the Damrys at various times. Charlotte m. Smallman and Charlotte Smallman, her daughter, also guests with a Damary on one occasion.

I have not been able to find Thamar anywhere else but from the children's ages we know she was alive in 1847/8 but dead by 1851.

Due to the variety of spellings - Eliza, Elizabeth, Nathway, Nethway, Damry, Demery, Demery, Damary and Samuel Henry becoming Henry Samuel in later life it is quite hard to get to grips with this family at this period. It has prevented me from putting their documents in a tidy way.

[yattonharry]

Ok that's the same one as I have and I have the 1861 as well - also the Pallot Index Marriage in 1829.  Cannot make out where they married though - can you?

YH

[Hackstaple]

Eliza Nethway married Hy. [ Henry] Demrey at St James, Westminster, 19th October 1829 - the Pallotts record is indistinct but my cousin has seen the register itself. Note another aberrant spelling of Damary.

She died 7 Sep 1858 of TB probably as Eliza Damry, age stated as 54.

[Diane Heddon]

Hi there, just found this board from GOSS surnames..please do tell if you are related to any Goss family please? I am of a HGoss link, originally they came from Devon England..great thanks Diane.