John Lyon c1793 Bytham or Skillington

[scruffypup]

I've been checking the 1840's-1860's census and I know my Mum's ancestor John Lyon should have been born around 1793 in Bytham or Skillington but his birth doesn't show on any website.  I have a gut feeling he could be the son of Daniel Lyon and Jane Wing, 2 of his children with his wife Elizabeth Crafts/Crofts were Daniel and Jane neither name occuring on Elizabeth's side of the family.  Has anyone come across a birth or possible birth for John Lyon?

[Frances]

Hi scruffypup,

Having followed John and Elizabeth through the census years I think this may be the burial of John who was entered as a a widower aged 78 on the 1871 census.

John Lyon was Buried 19 September 1871 aged 79 St James Skillington

Frances

[scruffypup]

Hi Frances

Thanks for John's death.  The Lyon family is one of those families where there doesn't seem to be any clues in the census, sometimes you'll find a sibling or relative staying with them, it's the same with Daniel and Josiah Lyon, John's son and Grandson who are also my ancestors there just aren't the clues around to find where they originate from

Yours Julie

[cotdeps]

Hi
I have been tracking the Lyon family in the Little Bytham and Castle Bytham area.  I can't help with your John (I show 8 kids for Daniel and Jane Wing, all Little Bytham)but if I can help in this area please give me what you need and I'll look against my work.

Cotdeps

[scruffypup]

Hi Cotdeps

Many thanks for your reply. I can trace Elizabeth's family back to Stamford Bridge Ann Alsope 1701 and Isaac Crofts 1688 All Saints Stamford aka Icaak Crofts I have reason to believe his parents were Bridget and William Crafts both c1650 no other details.  Have you come across a George Matthews born around 1809 in Skillington?  I believe his father was Richard Matthews, but still trying to tie the families together can't find a definite baptism for George, his daughter Bessie married John Lyon's son Josiah.

Julie

[cotdeps]

Don't have Jos or Josia(h) either I'm afraid.
I've attached my thoughts for the Bytham Lyons. (Sorry it's such poor quality)
Daniel and Jane Wing are about 5 layers down from the top and theres no record that I have for a son named John.
Though as you can see, William was born 1793.
Sorry I couldn't find your man.
Regards
Cotdeps.

[scruffypup]

Hi Cotdeps

Some interesting names in your Lyon family tree, I spotted a Clarence, I remembered my mum mentioning a Clarence years ago.  About 30 years ago while visiting my Gran both her and mum talked about one of the Lyons being connected to the coffee houses, mind you they were sure my great grandfather William Leng had been a policeman when it turned out her was a hospital porter.  I remember about a year ago when I had one of those free ancestry passes that I saw one of my Lyons on the same census as two Wings it was 1841/51/61 or 71 and of course I didn't save it.   It could have been a fluke as the names of the Lyons family are often very similar even born in the same year.  My Lyons moved to Huddersfield around 1880 and from there to Leeds, another problem is that their name is sometimes Lyon other times Lyons, my mum was definitely a Lyon not Lyons.

Julie

[linclinks]

Given that John and Elizabeth were married in Little Bytham in 1816 and that their offspring include Jane and Daniel, it is highly probable that John is a child of Daniel and Jane.

The IGI is not complete - there are frequent omissons and it is well worth trying to get to see the  register or persuade someone who is going to Lincoln Archives to look for you. The other possibility is that William did not like his name and called himself John.

The marriage record at Castle Bytham might have some clues with the witnesses

Other bits - Elizabeth Lyon nee Croft was buried at Skillington 4 Feb 1866
Dtr Charlotte b 1817 at  Skillington buried at Skillington 16 Jun1837
Dtr Sarah b1826 at Skillington buried at Skillington 20 may 1840

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Good hunting

Jacky
 
 


 

[scruffypup]

Hi Jacky

Many thanks for all your help.  I'll have to try to find someone whose speciallity is the Skillington/Castle Bytham area, I've never had the chance to visit the area but from what I've seen of photos it's a lovely part of Lincolnshire.

Julie