Help? Disappearance?

[JenClark]

Also if you look at the 1901 census, the Harris' family and the 3 boarders are actually at no 10 Tintern Street, Marianne is at 8 Tintern Street. She appears to be by herself but there are two others living at 8 Tintern Street Mr & Mrs Whitcombe but there is a slash between their names and Marianne's name which means that they are two seperate families.

It is odd that she is listed as Widowed, but I agree with Anna, it may just have been how she explained it to the census chappy  

Jenny

[avm228]

Also if you look at the 1901 census, the Harris' family and the 3 boarders are actually at no 10 Tintern Street, Marianne is at 8 Tintern Street. She appears to be by herself but there are two others living at 8 Tintern Street Mr & Mrs Whitcombe but there is a slash between their names and Marianne's name which means that they are two seperate families.

It is odd that she is listed as Widowed, but I agree with Anna, it may just have been how she explained it to the census chappy 

Jenny

Yes, I was about to say the same thing.  The 1901 transcriber/indexer has got it wrong - Marianne is in a single-person household, one of two households at no. 8.  Fanny & co are next door at no. 10.

Anna

[katherinem]

Hi,
Do you know what Charles's occupation was?  Just thought it might help to find him on the 1901.

I wonder if Clara Augusta left the country, after the birth of Charles and returned, it certainly seems strange that the birth was not registered until Dec 1901.  It certainly is a mystery

Kath

[scottcharles]

Also checked 19 & 20 South Grove, Peckham, Camberwell and there are no Mynn's either. There are a Noel & Annie Cobb at no 19 and Emily Shoutts at no 20.

And 19 & 20 Rye Lane, Peckham, Camberwell are also inhabited by others namely a Josiah Bloomfield MD and his large family 

Sorry

Jenny

Here are some edits I did from the records I mentioned I found them in:

[scottcharles]

Hi,
Do you know what Charles's occupation was?  Just thought it might help to find him on the 1901.

I wonder if Clara Augusta left the country, after the birth of Charles and returned, it certainly seems strange that the birth was not registered until Dec 1901.  It certainly is a mystery

Kath

I guess it's a possibility, though I don't think she would have had much money, she was only about 18 when she had him...I don't know how much tickets used to cost those days though!
It might be worth looking at passenger lists I guess...
It's a shame the 1911 census records aren't out yet, I could check to see if she went with her father to Notts as bizarre as that might sound.

As far as I know Charles Davies Mynn was an engineer. I've been told that he worked for Vickers in Dartford/Crayford (Kent) at one point, but although I've emailed around no one seems to hold records for Vickers - I believe it was bombed in WW1, as Dartford was the most bombed place in Britain.

What I do know about Charles Davies Mynn is that he had a first wife, Emily Jessie Smith who he married in 1903 in Southwark. There is a Gertrude Clara Mynn registered as being born the Dec qtr of 1904 in Southwark, who could be a potential child from that marriage, but for whom I can't seem to find any records for.

I do know that he is in grave no. H4.11
buried 17/10/1943  aged 64 living at 5 Beech Walk at time of death
register no. g609. Also in the grave with him is Emily Jessie buried
2 Apr 1939 aged 59 from 41 Crayford Rd register no p1355.

On my father's baptismal records (he didn't even know he was baptised!) I found:
Name: Gladys Winifred Mynn (married and became Short)

Year of Birth: 1916

Place of Birth: Dartford

Mother's Maiden Name: Emily Jessie Smith

as a witness to the christening, however, I haven't been able to find out much about her since, I will try some more enquiries using the ancestry database for her.

So basically I know that in 1903 he was in Southwark, and by 1916 he was in Dartford, I have been told that he was an engineer and that he work for Vickers.
Sorry if that was long, just trying to organise thoughts.

PS: avm and JenClark, thank you for identifying that error for me!

[katherinem]

Don't know if this will be of any help, but Walter Parker Mynn and family are living at 278 Upper St London on the 1881 census, they have a 2 year old child (1879) born in Belfast, a possible this is where Clara and baby went to

[toni*]

Interestingly, his birth certificate was only issued on Dec 6th 1901...

this would probably be a re-issue birth cert. that he needed to get married, i have one of my grandfathers dated 1933, although he was b. 1908

[JenClark]

It is possible that she went away with her baby, maybe with her father too?

After trawling through the 1881 census for many hours this seems to be the only possible for Clara:

1881 - 285 Strand, St Clement Danes, Westminster

Matilda Russell & family licenced victualler b. Surrey
Clara Myum Serv 20yrs U Barmaid b. Surrey
+ other barmaids

I have looked and looked at the image and it defiantely says Myum not Mynn but there are no other Myum's in the whole 1881 census so I assume that it is a mistake  

But no baby Charles, so it is still a mystery!

Jenny

[scottcharles]

Don't know if this will be of any help, but Walter Parker Mynn and family are living at 278 Upper St London on the 1881 census, they have a 2 year old child (1879) born in Belfast, a possible this is where Clara and baby went to

Walter Parker Mynn was in business with my gg-grandfather according to things that I have found via the London Gazette website. My gg-grandfather also bears the name Parker, William PARKER de Morely Mynn, which I assume is an ode to him in some way. If you look at my post regarding post office records, I have found Walter Parker and his son Ernest living in Peckham at the same time, not too far away from  where my grandfather's birth was registered in Lambeth. I will have a look to see if I can find any trace of her in N.Ireland...Thanks for the idea.

Walter Parker Mynn has come up as both a cricketeer and a a bankrupt prisoner, two reasons to travel!