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Re: JohnMackenzie/Jane or Jean McLean
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 28 July 07 02:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Gadget

Not sure how this come into my family

Mckenzie or Dimmack side there a photo of Mrs Stewart (Edinburgh) so one of them must have remarried.


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Re: JohnMackenzie/Jane or Jean McLean
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 05:06 GMT (UK) »
This is a very old post/thread but I’m new here and John Mackenzie and Jane/Jean McLean were my 2 x great grandparents.

John was born circa 1826 and died 10 June 1894
Jane was born circa 1831 and died 30 Jan 1894…..both are buried in Tomnahurich Cemetery, Inverness along with children Alexander 1858-60, Grigor 1866 and Catherine 1863-77.
As previously noted they had 5 children. I descend from their first born John, born 25 July 1855, died Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia 5 January 1916. He emigrated in 1876, he was a merchant seaman (as was his father) although he is listed as a lighthouse keeper/pilot at Sea Hill, Curtis Island for several years later in life. Married Alice Sinclair 1866-1911. They had 6 children, Donald, John, George, Archibald, Catherine and Jean. Alice’s parents were Donald Sinclair and Catherine Cairns.

I am trying to establish where John and Jane were born and who their parents were. Unfortunately their death certificates contain very little. No forenames and no mother’s maiden name on John’s…simply that his father was a ferryman and Jane’s notes her father was John McLean a farmer [crofter?]. The informant for both was listed as a friend (who owned the residence in which they lived) Donald Stewart.
I’m not convinced they were both born in the same area despite what’s listed on the 1861 census.
John (Jnr’s) eldest son, Donald Stewart McKenzie, believed his grandmother’s family were from Little Lochbroom, I’ve a letter he wrote seeking help to locate them in 1930 that says just this.
I’m also wondering if Knockan on the 1861 census might be Knockban?

If anyone who helped with the original query is still here I’d very much appreciate it, or any anyone with any fresh ideas or suggestions?
Thanks in advance, JazzaD  :)


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Re: JohnMackenzie/Jane or Jean McLean
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 11:34 GMT (UK) »
Are you using an Ancestry transcription of the 1861 census? Ancestry's transcriptions are notorious for errors.

Because the transcription at FindMyPast says Knockbain for both John's and Jane's birth parish. FindMyPast's transcriptions are generally more accurate than Ancestry's but they still make plenty of errors.

You need to view the original at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk to check that you have the right information.

The 1861 census gives John's age as 37 and Jane's as 30, so if this is accurate John would have ebeen born in 1823/1824 and Jane in 1830/1831.

Have you got a copy of John Jr's birth certificate? Because if not, get it. 1855 birth certificates contain extra information about the parents that you never get in any other year.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: JohnMackenzie/Jane or Jean McLean
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 26 January 22 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Yes I have the original 1861 census from SP.  I ruled out Knocklaw (Ancestry’s transcription) but the writing is such it could be Knockan, Knockban or Knockbain. Early in this thread Gadget indicated Knockan.
I have the record for John’s (jnr) birth and it says both John and Jane were from the Parrish of Lochbroom so I dismissed the latter.
I’ve SP originals for each census, birth and marriage occurring in Scotland. Each subsequent census recorded their place of birth simply as Ross shire. I have a census for 1851 that I believe to be my gggf but I’ve not proven it yet. This census notes John, a seaman…right age, born Ullapool. DNA connections have family from in and around that area too. If this record is accurate for him, there are several other family members listed too.
Cheers, JazzaD