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Re: Maryport
« Reply #63 on: Saturday 25 December 10 22:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I used to live in Maryport - albeit briefly - the house I lived in always intrigued me, it was rumoured that a surgeon or doctor lived there and operated from the cellars.... this theory was backed up by a number of old balms and medicines / pills found in jars in the cellars back in the 70's.
Is there any way anyone can find out who lived in the house?
It is Georgian and stands at no 11 High street - so has been standing for well over 200 years now, is a little disheveled as I just stalked the house on google maps, and is now possibly empty
The owner did have a groundsman working there full time, as denoted by the cottage set aside for them in the grounds, also had a number of servants working there, as there were 6 rooms on the attic floor and one master chamber for the head servant on the 2nd floor, asecret staircase to the kitchen with access to the main residence and bedrooms, external wash house and a very large coach house that easily fit 6 modern day cars.... so whoever built the house was very much a high flyer of his day to live this close to the original norman settlement and yet so close to the port and town centre.
Can anybody find out from any old census who possibly lived there and their occupation?

I am also in the process of revitalising the memory of Netherhall mansion.... dismayed to know it is no more, and even more dismayed to find no evidence or websites on the Senhouse manor which they inhabited - until the death of the last remaining son in 1952, for almost 400 years
Nobody seems to remember it, it is in danger of being completely forgotten and most people don't actually seem to care either way.... so I am now gathering information in order to put up a website about the old place - keep its memory alive and also the name of the Senhouse's (desevenhouse) too.
If anybody has anything about this property - images, items purchased / acquired before its final demise, i would love to work with you and include these into my finished memorial to the manor and family name that Maryport was built on.
have all the names of the Senhouses (all 10 generations of them) that lived in the house from the late 1500's, but if anyone has information on the previous lords / owners, please feel free to share :)
thanks in advance

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Re: Maryport
« Reply #64 on: Sunday 26 December 10 11:35 GMT (UK) »
If you go to historicaldirectories.org, cumberland, then stick maryport in any of the 12 directories that appear, then a list of inhabitants and professions eventually turns up. In 1829, there are a couple of "surgeons" practicing in High Street, 3 in 1847, but no house numbers. By 1883, house numbers do appear but not on every house but I couldn't spot number 11. There do seem a lot of master mariners living in low numbers High St but no surgeons. It might be that I missed and someone with a better eye or search engine can spot number 11 for you or you may care to while away an hour or two . Good luck. bob
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Re: Maryport
« Reply #65 on: Sunday 26 December 10 12:43 GMT (UK) »
I have a lot of info on Netherhall I believe it was originally owed by the Eaglesfield family.Elizabeth eaglesfield married John Senhouse abt 1528

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Re: Maryport
« Reply #66 on: Sunday 26 December 10 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Bob, will have a good scout at this.

Audrey, I followed their line through ancestry.com and the Eaglesfield family appear to come from Eaglesfield Manor in the village they named after themselves - Eaglesfield.
Elizabeth is cited as being born in the manor in Eaglesfield and was later stated as deceased in Netherhall but no dates are available to confirm this.
It appears that she was amongst the first line of Senhouse / Eaglesfield line to purchase the hall back in the mid 1500's.... I know they were married around 1528 and their son John, who carried on as head of the house, dies in 1604/05 - succeeded by his son Peter and the line is steady until 1952 when the last of the successors dies without producing a heir, after which I believe one of his remaining sisters (Dorothy Elizabeth) steps in as custodian for 10 years until her death - then the house is locked up and the inevitable happened....
What was / is your connection with the hall?
Do you have any images of the place or of the Senhouse family that you would be willing to allow being published on a website?
I've still been trawling the internet and the lack of information that is out there is appalling, have managed to find some images of Humphrey II and his wife Mary Fleming, their son and heir - Humphrey III (as a child) and also of their other son - Barbados plantation owner William (1741 - 1800) - will still keep trawling as there are bits of information out there but it isn't easy to locate - I may be able to glean the smallest bit of info out of one site in 200 that i visit. Quite crazy that such a high profile family should be so low key interest.
If you would prefer to carry on a conversation off this forum, let me know, I will send you my email address.
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steve


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Re: Maryport
« Reply #67 on: Monday 27 December 10 09:25 GMT (UK) »
Steve
My dad was born in Maryport in 1905 he was one of six children .His only sister Hannah was in service at what was known as the Big house from 1914-1938 The Senhouse family were very good to my family and made sure through the war they had food to eat as my Grandfather Robert and Hannah were the Only ones that had a job There have been many books written about
Netherhall some of the picture in one of the books were actually given to the author by Hannah I remember going to the house as a small child many times I also ember may cards and letters written by the Senhouse family over the years in a big black trunk in the attic in Crosby Street when Hannah died the trunk was not there so she must of got rid of the stuff sadly

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Re: Maryport
« Reply #68 on: Monday 27 December 10 11:12 GMT (UK) »
Dear Audrey, thanks for writing back to me, bizarre to think that only 24 years later the house would be empty and on its way to being destroyed.
Can you remember any of the names of the books that you referred to? I have searched on Amazon and Google and can only come up with antiquarian books dating the deaths of the Senhouses and tourism guides, apart from this, very little else is resulting from my evenings search.

If you would like your family mentioned in the website, please let me know, I am considering mentioning and listing the staff from previous censes' as a testament to their hard work in keeping such a house.
Your recollections sound wonderful, I would love to hear more from you bout what you remember about the house - its layout, and how it looked in its heyday - if you have the time to write to me.
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Steve

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Re: Maryport
« Reply #69 on: Monday 27 December 10 12:54 GMT (UK) »
Steve
if you look through the first few messages at the Begin you will see a list of some of my books and by the way hear is some info on 11 High street Dr J.W.Creerar .

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Re: Maryport
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Re: Maryport
« Reply #71 on: Monday 27 December 10 21:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again Audrey, Indeed the Crerar's were the medical family who lived in the house. I don't know where they put all those children though!!! there were only 3 master bedrooms in the house and one small dressing room that was locked between 2 of them.
It is possible that the children may have all been put into the attic rooms - there were 6 separate rooms up there which I originally believed to be the servants quarters.....but now, upon finding this out, I could possibly have been wrong in this assumption.

Thank you for all your help so far.

Regards

steve