Information of Duns Tew, Oxfordshire

[Trees]

Well here is a start for you the missing 1841 census is HO107/889 / 17 fo 7 p8
John and Susanna are in Duns Tew with a Mary SIMKINS born between 1776 and 1781
SIMKINS, Mary 1781 Dressmaker
SIMKINS, Richard 1811 Carpenter
SIMKINS, Samuel 1821 Carpenter
OVERTON, Mitilda 1827
NICHOLS, John 1816 Joiner
NICHOLS, Susanna 1816
NICHOLS, John 1839
NICHOLS, Ellen 0 (1 months) 1841

I wonder if Mary was Susanna's mum and was Mitilda a servant or grandchild she was the only one born out of county, lots to check on

oooh I wonder if this Richard born 1806-1811 was  Richard father of my Sussana Mary He was a carpenter in 1851 born North Aston He was Richard Weston Simkins born 1809

Off to do some more digging
Trees

[Jazsaxman]

Hello, thanks very much for that! It certainly looks like the right household in 1841 with Mary appearing to be Susanna's mother. I wonder if your line will tie in through Richard SIMKINS?

I had a look at your website, found the below entry and was wondering if you had any extra info? I'm particularly interested as it seems to tie in the NICHOLS name at the White Horse.

The White Horse, Duns Tew.
The only Inn at Duns Tew is the 17 century coaching inn ‘The White Horse’ which is still open and has retained its flag stone floors and low beams. This was possibly the one kept by John CANNING [9669] in 1855. when he appears as an Inn keeper on his son’s marriage certificate but the Post Office Directory for 1854 has him as a shop keeper and Mrs Margaret Nichols at the White Horse.

Cheers Steve

[Trees]

Hi Steve yes I think the Richard is the one on my tree from that 1841 census he was born between 1806 and 1811 and from the 52,62 and 71 censuses he was born 1809 right in the middle of that range but he is consistantly born North Aston less than 2 miles from Duns Tew so it looks good to me. Now my Richard has the second name weston which often indicates a mother's surname or even implies a child born just before a wedding so I think it will be worth a look for a wedding of a Mary Weston and a Simkins about 1809. I wonder if anyone can check the Oxfordshire marriage index for us I'll post a look up now. Sorry I haven't had a chance to check your Nichols yet though.
I am trying to remember where I got the information on the White Horse it may have been a Go...gle search again I will check but as I have written I have checked the Post Office Directory for 1854 when your Nichols were there I was trying to work out how long John Canning was Inn Keeper but it is odd that Margaret Nichols was listed there in 1854 and John Nichols there in 1861. The only thing I can think of is that Margaret was a widow and held the licence after her husband and possibly John Canning was her tenant Land Lord for a short period until her relation John took over for her. Interesting to see John Nichols is not residing at the White Horse in 1861 was he learning the trade before moving in completely Richard Westen Simkins is in the village in 1861 as a gamekeeper. I will put a look for the licences on the list of to dos in Oxford RO next time we gey up there.
The only place I have John Canning as Inn keeper is this marriage:
1855 May 31   CANNING Jesse   FA   bach   lab      s John Innkeeper
      MOLE Sarah   20   spin         d David tailor
Wit:   Joseph BARRETT      X Adelaide WILLETT


Do you know who Margaret Nichols was? She is also listed in Gardener's Directory of 1852
Nichols Margaret vict., White Horse
and a Nichols Robert Tailor

[Jazsaxman]

Hi, I am just trying to locate my source for the 'Vicarage House' detail in the 1861 census as my actual census image doesn't show that. It may have been a red herring on my behalf! I also see that I actually did have some of the 1841 census info but not of the household so that's been very useful thanks.

I had been given some information many years ago but was never able to verify the persons research so cautiously I never added it in to my tree, but looking back at it I see that it does seem to tie in with what you are telling me. You can see that info at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jazsaxman3&id=I14

That gives my Susanna's father as John Frederic SIMKINS b.~1873, North Ashton. It also shows a Margaret NICHOLS and a Robert NICHOLS. I'll keep looking for its source but lost many emails a decade ago with a computer crash.

If you want to check out my tree its at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jazsaxman&id=I346

Cheers Steve

[ribbo39]

Hi,
Just adding here for reference if needed.
There is a marriage of;
Simkins, J.F.  Dunstew   to a   Mary Howell, Nth Aston on 1806 (no actual date mentioned)
These details are in the Oxfordshire Archdeacon’s Marriage Bond Index - 1634 - 1849

Alan

[Trees]

Alan your a star that ties up very nicely my Richard is consistently from N. Aston so it looks like he is the Richard from that 1841 census and Mary was his mum so I wonder where the WESTON part of his name fits in may be it will turn out to be that of a grandmother or possibly his God parents needs more digging.Look Steve JF SIMKINS in the marriage Ribbo has sent us and you have John Frederick looks like we are on to a winner so welcome to our extended family now we need to find your John Nichols

The John Canning innkeeper by the way was the uncle of Jane Canning who married Richard Weston SIMKINS so a vague relationship.
Trees

[jamajo]

Hi All,

     Hope this might help... from OFHS North Aston PRs...

First of all there are no baptisms for Simkins or similar..
The marriage Alan found, i can add witnesses were James Howell and Mr Goodman ( Mr Goodman is on most marriages so probably to do with church )

Burials...

16 Feb 1774 Richard Symkins
10 Aug 1806 Samuel Simkins
5 Sep 1807 Richard Weston Simkins
8 Aug 1817 Samuel Henchall Simpkins, age 10 days of Duns Tew
27 Jul 1824 Susannah Simpkins, age 95 of Duns Tew


   Sue

[Trees]

Hi Sue glad to have you on the case again somehow you always manage to turn up relavant data Many thanks. I wonder if the Richard Weston death was my Richard's grandfather? I wonder if there is a Richard Simkins /Susanna marriage in the index can you have a look for us please Alan?
Gosh at least our common line is progressing a pace Steve I am sure when the chatters get hold of the Nichols they will take off too 
H.

By the way was there a date on the OFHS North Aston PR please?

[ribbo39]

Hi Trees,

Have sent a PM.

Alan