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Re: A Graveyard Near Donegal Pass
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 11:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Volvic.
If you do contact the City Cemetery, ask them to cross-check with Dundonald Cemetery as well.
A relative of mine, died 1913 in the Sandy Row area of Belfast, I had assumed her burial took place in the City Cemetery, she was not there, but the gent in the cemetery office got Dundonald to do a check and that's were she was.

Chis. that's interesting about the cemetery at the back of the old Workhouse. It would be hard now to find out were it had been, with all the changes that have taken place to the hospital since those days. I wonder was it only used for workhouse inmates ?. I suppose we'll never know.

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Re: A Graveyard Near Donegal Pass
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 20:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Dixie,

Thank you for that info Dixie, I will do that when I get a chance to go up to the City.

It's sad to think that all those graves have been covered over and possibly built on.

Thanks again for all your help.

Brian.

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Re: A Graveyard Near Donegal Pass
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 20:18 BST (UK) »

Chis. that's interesting about the cemetery at the back of the old Workhouse. It would be hard now to find out were it had been, with all the changes that have taken place to the hospital since those days. I wonder was it only used for workhouse inmates ?. I suppose we'll never know.

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Dixie 


Dixie,

If I remember I'll ask William Roulston if it's possible that there may be records somewhere. In the case of a mass grave when people died as a result of an epidemic I doubt there'll be any records but in the case of normal deaths it's possible there may be records.

Chris

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Re: A Graveyard Near Donegal Pass
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 19 September 20 18:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Volvic,

I don't know if you're still using this site but, if you are, my grandfather was George Russell, the youngest son of James Russell, one of the three brothers who came from Bessbrook with their families at the turn of the last century, the other two brothers being Andrew and William.

I'm currently working on my family tree and I was wondering if you had any information on James, Andrew and William's parents?

Kind Regards

Russell


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Re: A Graveyard Near Donegal Pass
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 19 September 20 22:10 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat, if you could give an idea of dates we may be able to help find the boys births.
Are the deaths Volvic spoke of the daughters of William brother of your James.

This appears to be William and family in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Cromac/Auburn_Street/158312/
My reasoning is there is a death of a Kathleen Florence 32 Virginia St in 1920 aged 24
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05119/4408169.pdf
and of a Mabel Bluett 32 Virginia St aged 30 in 1920
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05125/4410742.pdf

Mabel Bluett was born in Bessbrook in 1890 mother Martha McIlvee
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02435/1906368.pdf

William and Martha's marriage in 1876 gives William father as James A Russell, Cutter
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1876/11173/8093669.pdf

If this William is your James' brother that he was born before Civil Registration of births so will not have a birth cert you will need baptisms, if  his brother's were also born before 1864 they will also not have birth certs although it's likely their parents will have a marriage cert.


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Re: A Graveyard Near Donegal Pass
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 20 September 20 00:05 BST (UK) »
Very sad year for that family.
A James A Russell married a Eliza Barr in 1853
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1853/09443/5420831.pdf

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Re: A Graveyard Near Donegal Pass
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 20 September 20 13:12 BST (UK) »
I cannot believe that the City Cemetery would be described as "near Donegall Pass",
but you can search on line for burials there:
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/
Bagwell of Kilmore & Lisronagh, Co. Tipperary;  Beatty from Enniskillen;  Brown from Preston, Lancs.;  Burke of Ballydugan, Co. Galway;  Casement in the IoM and Co. Antrim;  Davison of Knockboy, Broughshane;  Frobisher;  Guillemard;  Harrison in Co. Antrim and Dublin;  Jones around Burton Pedwardine, Lincs.;  Lindesay of Loughry;  Newcomen of Camlagh, Co. Roscommon;  Shield;  Watson from Kidderminster;  Wilkinson from Leeds

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Re: A Graveyard Near Donegal Pass
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 20 September 20 15:58 BST (UK) »
I cannot believe that the City Cemetery would be described as "near Donegall Pass",
but you can search on line for burials there:
https://dof.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/

It's not really that far away. Berry St. (church) was just south of present Castlecourt shopping centre, Virginia St. is east of City Hospital (about 1/2 mile) and City Cemetery to the west of City Hospital. Virginia St. to City Cemetery is less than 2 miles.
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