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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 07:54 GMT (UK) »
I found the family you mentioned, that I had looked up for a friend.

Guisseppe D'ELIA married Rita Barber LISSIMAN in 1911 at Wellington New Zealand
Rita Barber D'ELIA married Frederick James CAMPION in 1948 at Ashfield NSW

My friend is granddaughter of Guisseppe and Rita.

Jan

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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 10:04 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Alex and Jan!

Your comments have added to my knowledge of the wider family tree.  I had NO IDEA that Frederick James had married again!  Researching family history is a hobby without end!

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Could you give us some more details ?
Did he marry Florence Bettington in 1906 ?
Jan

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Hello Alex & Jan

Yes.  He maried Florence Emily Bettington nee McLerie, (widow), on 9th November 1906 at St. James' Church of England, in Sydney.  They were both aged 28.

The following year on 8th August 1907 at Middle Harbour Road, Lindfield, Sydney, N.S.W. their first child was born: William Frederick Campion.  Father William Frederick is a Jeweller.  A daughter, Margaret May, was born later.

Frederick James Campion, his son William Frederick Campion and daughter (no details yet), Margaret May, are on the Electoral List for 1930 at 71 Queen Street, Ashfield, Sydney, NSW.    Florence is not there, so Frederick could well be a widower, and Margaret May is employed in "Home Duties".

Frederick James Campion travelled back to Sydney having visited England for the Coronation (my father met his uncle at that time) departing on 14th August 1937 on board the "Ormonde" of the Orient Line.  He travelled alone and is listed as a "Wholesale Jeweller".  The address he stayed at when in England was: c/o Cook family, Berkeley Street, London W.  I haven't found a record of his passage from Australia to England, only that return trip.

Please tell me the website where you learned he married Florence Bettington.



 



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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 20:54 GMT (UK) »
The webpage was the NSW BDM website - www.bdm.nsw.gov.au
On there I found the marriage of Joseph Bettington and Florence McLerie in 1899
Also Joseph's death in 1905
Also Joseph and Florence had 3 children - Miriam, Joseph and Florence.
I will have to write a long letter to my friend to explain all this !
Jan

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Jan for that further information.  I, too, need to update someone on all this new info and have found that this website does not let you cut and paste, forward the page or save the page!  Pity!

Also a pity is that the granddaughter of Guisseppe and Rita is not related to me :)  Say 'Hello' to her from me.

Are you in Australia?

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 28 October 09 23:49 GMT (UK) »
The webpage was the NSW BDM website - www.bdm.nsw.gov.au
On there I found the marriage of Joseph Bettington and Florence McLerie in 1899
Also Joseph's death in 1905
Also Joseph and Florence had 3 children - Miriam, Joseph and Florence.
I will have to write a long letter to my friend to explain all this !
Jan

Hello Jan

I went to the NSW BDM website you mentioned and tried to find Frederick James Campion's death.  My search returned ZERO results!  Do you happen to know the details of the when, where and why?  Would be grateful if you could let me know!

Lauren 

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 29 October 09 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Yes we are in Australia, where are you ?
I just had a look for his death on the Ryerson Index and found it in QLD in 1956
I can get a friend in Sydney to look this up for me.

Just spoke to Joan and she said he had a holiday house up there.
Went up there for winter.

Joan said Bill had a daughter Marnie (Daisy) and son Fred who was hit by a car.
Margaret married Colin Russell Johns 1940 (NSW BDM's)
Joan said that Margaret had a daughter Susan who got a tic which killed her.

She is so excited that there is another family member out there.
I told her I would write a letter with all the details you have told me when you and I had sorted things out.
Jan

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 29 October 09 13:36 GMT (UK) »
Hello Jan
I live in West Sussex, England.  I've never heard of the Ryerson Index, never knew that Frederick had a winter home in Queensland, and would never have found the record of his death - so thank you so much for that information.  Finding out all these details means a lot to me - and possibly even more to my father who personally knew Frederick's siblings.  My father says that if he could turn the clock back he would ask so many questions of his aunts, uncles and grandmother.  For example, why on earth did their father, William Joseph Campion, use an alias.  On all documents relation to Births, Marriages and Deaths he used the correct 'Campion' name, but apart from one exception, he always used the name 'Lewis' for Census purposes.  I gather that he was a very moral man and he lived a well-ordered and responsible life.  I can only speculate that when he came to England, from his native Ireland, the Irish were very unpopular in England and he thought it best to keep as anonymous as possible to 'Officialdom'.  The 'Fenians' were blowing up parts of London then and tried to assassinate Queen Victoria, so he probably wanted to keep his identity (and therefore his Irishness) at a low profile.  None of his children used an alias after they left home.

I have enlisted the help of an Irish Genealogist to help me trace William Joseph's Irish roots - I have found Irish records to be next to useless!

Thank you for all the extra information you have given me - I shall write it all up properly in the book I'm making - a book for future generations of my family.

Best wishes,
Lauren

PS  Joan is Rita and Guisseppe's granddaughter?
By the way, Frederick James is not the only Campion who went abroard.  His older brother, Josiah Alfred (b.1863) tried his luck in Argentina.  He was there a few years, but it didn't work out and he came back to England, settling in Manchester.  All of that Campion family were honest, hard-working, upright and enterprising.  William Joseph would have been proud of them all.