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Re: Problem finding existence of town called Newton
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 22 July 07 12:40 BST (UK) »
I did say IGI can not always be relied on, but having done much research in Scotland/England/Ireland over the years, and having used IGI in conjunction with other sources, it often proves to be a very effective starting point and many times, hits the nail on the head. All research sources can be subject to human error, such is life, but if we didn't work with them and around them, we would probably find it much harder to do our research and many sources provide excellent results.
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Re: Problem finding existence of town called Newton
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 22 July 07 12:42 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have just found Sarah's immigration records to Victoria, Australia.  She was 19 years old in Jun 1854 when she travelled out on the ship Hilton (not sure which port she left from).  So the dates fit with her birth year and she apparently was born in January.  She travelled with a Marjory Gordon aged 27 and two children Margaret (aged 2) and Elizabeth Gordon (aged 1).  Thanks for the link I will try it now.  This is fantastic.

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Australia - Hitchen, Staggs, Little, Warren, White, McLoughin (and variants).
Lanc, Eng - Hitchen, Stirrup, Gould, Foster, Cowens, Howard, White, Coppock, Atkinson
Dur, Eng- Cowens
Northum, Eng - Cowens, Noble, Dunn
Kent, Eng - Staggs, Albury, Miller
Hamp,Eng, London - Warren, Peates, Price
Germany/East Prussia - Kammer, Weber, Ostach, Staub
Armagh, Nth Ireland - Little, Boyd
Fermanagh, Nth Ireland - McLoughlin
Flintshire, Wales - Jones, Lewis

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Re: Problem finding existence of town called Newton
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 22 July 07 13:31 BST (UK) »
firstly to aghadowey, religion I am sure was protestant. Yes, you are right about verifying the information, I guess I have taken the letter to much to heart (I was just so excited at finding something like that). I am trying to tie up these little problems one by one. I seem to have all very common names like Little, Boyd and Gordon, just the luck of the draw I guess. But all of the replies by everyone have been most helpful and I am thankful.
They may have been Protestant but that alone is not very helpful. Two most likely possiblities are Church of Ireland and Presbyterian but there's also Methodist, Baptist, Reformed Presbyterian, etc. in the area. 
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Re: Problem finding existence of town called Newton
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 22 July 07 22:48 BST (UK) »
What is the likelihood of being congragational???  In Australia they attended a congragational church.

Kate
Australia - Hitchen, Staggs, Little, Warren, White, McLoughin (and variants).
Lanc, Eng - Hitchen, Stirrup, Gould, Foster, Cowens, Howard, White, Coppock, Atkinson
Dur, Eng- Cowens
Northum, Eng - Cowens, Noble, Dunn
Kent, Eng - Staggs, Albury, Miller
Hamp,Eng, London - Warren, Peates, Price
Germany/East Prussia - Kammer, Weber, Ostach, Staub
Armagh, Nth Ireland - Little, Boyd
Fermanagh, Nth Ireland - McLoughlin
Flintshire, Wales - Jones, Lewis


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Re: Problem finding existence of town called Newton
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 22 July 07 22:50 BST (UK) »
Not aware of a Congregational church in Limavady but possibly they went to one in Australia because it was nearby, they knew the minister, had friends there, or some other reason.
Have you done a parent search on IGI? Based on parents Edward Gordon and Mary (although some of the foregoing threads refer to Gordon Edward, so forgive me if I am looking at the wrong person), it turns up 3 children born in Drumachose, Londonderry. These being a Sally Jane Gordon christened (therefore quite possibly born in 1834)  on 24/1/1835 (in my own family research, I have found Sally and Sarah interchangeable as first names), James Mitchell Gordon christened 29/3/1837 and a Robert Gordon born 19/1/1839. Drumachose would have been situated in NewtownLimavady/Limavady.

Although IGI is not always reliable, these are  extracted rather than user submitted records, so I would have more confidence in them.
Think the above is a very strong possiblity.
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Re: Problem finding existence of town called Newton
« Reply #23 on: Monday 23 July 07 08:22 BST (UK) »
Hi again Kate,
 
I did a search on the Vic BDM site and also managed to come up with no births to William & Sarah!  Then I read the "Search Hints'"and found that one should not enter anything in the box "father's family name"!
 
A search for births, Family Name LITTLE, Mother's Family Name GORDON gets 13 results (they would fit on one page - and it costs the same for a page of up to 20 result records as for 1 result record).  The same search but adding Father's Given Name William gets 8 results.  The same search but rendering Father's Given Name as W*m gets 9 results.

I've gone back to an earlier post (response #9) and inserted the reference numbers for the births.  Though you might well wish to download them yourself just to be quite sure!

Here are a couple of other deaths:
*LITTLE Wm/ (father) Little Wm/ (mother) Sarah J GORDON/ (place) TGON/ (age)84/ (date) 1946/ (reference number) #23786
*HARPER Sarah/ Little Jas/ Jane BOYD/ Elmore/ 76/ 1908/ #5742

scotmum, As you can see, the Vic indexes reverse the father's name and don't capitalize the surname (cf. the mother's name!).  Often, where the family name is the same as the father's surname, the surname is not even included in the father column!  I try to quote "as is" (rather than making what is an assumption) but I agree that it can be confusing.

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Re: Problem finding existence of town called Newton
« Reply #24 on: Monday 23 July 07 08:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Jap

Thanks for this, I have learnt quite a bit about searching in the last couple of days, it seems less information is better when looking in the indexes or the internet for that matter.  Thanks for your advice on the other question, I must have entered too much information as I didn't get anything except gibberish.  I think drumbanagher I may have spelt wrong  :-[ :-[.  I do wish I had discovered Rootschat earlier in my searching. 

Regards  Kate
Australia - Hitchen, Staggs, Little, Warren, White, McLoughin (and variants).
Lanc, Eng - Hitchen, Stirrup, Gould, Foster, Cowens, Howard, White, Coppock, Atkinson
Dur, Eng- Cowens
Northum, Eng - Cowens, Noble, Dunn
Kent, Eng - Staggs, Albury, Miller
Hamp,Eng, London - Warren, Peates, Price
Germany/East Prussia - Kammer, Weber, Ostach, Staub
Armagh, Nth Ireland - Little, Boyd
Fermanagh, Nth Ireland - McLoughlin
Flintshire, Wales - Jones, Lewis

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Re: Problem finding existence of town called Newton
« Reply #25 on: Monday 23 July 07 08:48 BST (UK) »
Hi again

Thanks for the references too, it's much appreciated.  Sorry I meant to put this in the other message but forgot.

Regards Kate
Australia - Hitchen, Staggs, Little, Warren, White, McLoughin (and variants).
Lanc, Eng - Hitchen, Stirrup, Gould, Foster, Cowens, Howard, White, Coppock, Atkinson
Dur, Eng- Cowens
Northum, Eng - Cowens, Noble, Dunn
Kent, Eng - Staggs, Albury, Miller
Hamp,Eng, London - Warren, Peates, Price
Germany/East Prussia - Kammer, Weber, Ostach, Staub
Armagh, Nth Ireland - Little, Boyd
Fermanagh, Nth Ireland - McLoughlin
Flintshire, Wales - Jones, Lewis

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Re: Problem finding existence of town called Newton
« Reply #26 on: Monday 23 July 07 08:55 BST (UK) »
Hi again Kate,

It seems that William LITTLE re-married soon after Sarah Jane's death?

William LITTLE (born Armagh) married Mary Jane CLAPPERTON (born Antrim), 1870, #3123
They had (at least):
*Hannah, MALM, 1871, #17454; she died aged 5 (birthplace given as Kyneton) 1877, #6730
*Alice Matilda, ROSEDALE, 1873, #19474
*John Charles, ROSE, 1875, #25421; he died aged 1 (birthplace given as LOY YANG) 1877, #6741
*Hannah Mabel, TRAR, 1878, #12333
*Emy Ruth, TRAR, 1881, #20109

A couple of other relevant marriages?
Mary Jane LITTLE (born Mbury) married Thomas CLAPPERTON (born Antrim) 1881 #3787
James LITTLE (born Armagh) married Jamesina Paxton GOLLAN (born Ross-shire) 1870 #4270

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