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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:45 BST (UK) »
Gazette Issue 33592 published on the 28 March 1930. Page 42 of 84
Solicitors notice regarding the estate of Frederick George Abberline, Deceased, late of "Estcourt", 195 Holdenhurst Road, Bournemouth.
He didn't die intestate. This was a standard notice inviting creditors and others with any interest in the estate to step forward.
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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:49 BST (UK) »
I think I've found Frederick's niece, Cora...

1901 Deptford St Paul, London
RG 13/530 folio 178 page 49

32 Haydock Road
Henry Lindley, head, 25, printer lithographic, Bradford York
Cora, wife, 26, Chatham Kent
Harry, son, 2, Camberwell London
Edward, son, 10mo, Deptford London
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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 20:04 BST (UK) »
A quick summary...

Frederick George Abberline, son of Edward and Hannah Abberline, was born on 8 January 1843 in Blandford and died 10 December 1929 in Bournemouth.

Frederick was married twice. His first marriage was to Eliza Humberstone or Martha Mackness in 1868 in Islington. She died before the 1871 Census. He then married Emma Beaumont in 1876. Neither of these marriages appear to have produced any children.

Frederick's elder brother - Edward - was born about 1840 in Blandford. He married Ellen (surname unknown) in the early 1870s and died in 1916, age 76.

Edward and Ellen had at least two children:
* Cora, born about 1873 in Chatham
* Edward, born about 1877 in Malta.

Cora appears to have married Harry Lindley in 1896. They had at least two children:
- Harry (c.1898 in Camberwell)
- Edward (1900 in Deptford).

Edward jnr married Lily Beard in 1911 and died in 1946 as a civil casualty of WW2. They had at least three children:
- Violet (1911)
- Grace (1913)
- Edna (1915)
all registered in Lewisham.

So...
Can we find any descendants of these five children?
Their grandfather Edward Abberline was Frederick's elder brother!
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 20:12 BST (UK) »
I've just spotted two fairly recent death registrations

One was born in 1918 and died 1999 in Lewisham.
The other was born 1929 and died 1989 in Bromley.

Both were sons of Edward Abberline and Lily Beard.

I won't mention their names here out of respect for their families.
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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 20:13 BST (UK) »
Have you read this about his life?http://www.casebook.org/police_officials/po-abber.html
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 20:19 BST (UK) »
in 1881 Harriett M  Abberline was a Nurse / Servant for the Blythe Family living at 4 Alma Villas Grange Road, Stoke Newington - age 40 born circa 1841 Blandford.
 RG11 285  84  9

I wonder who Helen Abberlines parents were, she was b. Q3 1871 Farnham and died age 0 Q1 1872 Medway.


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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 20:22 BST (UK) »
Further news!

I have just found someone on GR who has Violet in their family tree.  :D

I've sent them a message - let's hope they reply!
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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 20:23 BST (UK) »


For nothing other than interest value - here is a photo of Frederick:

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 20:27 BST (UK) »
Have you read this about his life?http://www.casebook.org/police_officials/po-abber.html

very interesting
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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