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Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« on: Wednesday 18 July 07 18:30 BST (UK) »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/6269434.stm

Locals raised the money for Det. Insp. Frederick Abberline's headstone.  Since burial, 78 years ago, his grave has been unnmarked.

The article says that they are about finding living rellies!

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 18:37 BST (UK) »
Ooooo...I am feeling a Rootschat challenge here.  ::)

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 18:53 BST (UK) »
(Rolls up sleeves)

May as well start here...

Birth Registration
Frederic George ABBERLINE
March qtr 1843, Blandford vol 8 p 21

Marriage Registgration
Frederick George ABBERLINE
March qtr 1868, Islington vol 1b page 244
Spouse:
Eliza HUMBERSTONE
or Martha MACKNESS

Another?
Frederick George ABBERLINE
Dec qtr 1876, Hendon vol 3a p 202
Spouse:
Emma BEAMONT
or Sarah Ann COOK

Death Registration:
Frederick G. ABBERLINE (age 86)
Dec qtr 1929, Bournemouth vol 2b p 855

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:00 BST (UK) »


1881 census:
RG11/383, folio 20A, page 36

London, Shoreditch
160 Commercial Street,
Police Station

Frederick G Aberline, h. mar. 38, Inspector of Police, b. Dorset, Blanford
Emma, wife, mar, 28, b. Islington, Middlesex


It must be this one then Dave:

Marriage: Dec. qtr. 1876
Abberline, Frederick George
Beaumont, Emma
Hendon, Vol.3a,page 202

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:06 BST (UK) »
1851 Blandford, Dorset
HO 107/1853 folio 258 page 52
Address: East Street
Hannah Abberline, head, widow, 49, shopkeeper, Southampton Hants
Harriet, daur, 12, scholar, Blandford Dorset
Edward, son, 11, scholar, Blandford Dorset
Frederick, son, 8, scholar, Blandford Dorset
John Oxford, [no rel. stated], mar, 38, woolsorter[?], Warminster Wilts

1861 Blandford Dorset
RG 9/1333 folio 60 page 23
Address: East Street
Hannah Abberline, head, w, 60, formerly a shopkeeper, Southampton Hants
Edward, son, 21, cabinet maker, Blandford Dorset
Frederick G., son, 18, clock & watchmaker ap., Blandford Dorset
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:10 BST (UK) »
1871 St Pancras (Kentish Town) London
RG 10/246 folio 78 page 24
Address: Police Station
Numerous police officers listed including
Frederick Abberline, widower, 28, police sergeant, Blandford

So...
It does look like he married twice and that his first wife died between 1868 and 1871.
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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:13 BST (UK) »
Well to start with heres his birth

8 Jan 1843 Blandford-Dorset

Father Edward Abberline
Mother Hannah

Death

10 Dec 1929

Jane
Kershaw, Longbottom,Parvin
Areas  Huddersfield, Brighouse, Rastrick ,Thirsk, Sand Hutton
Masters in London/Surrey
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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:17 BST (UK) »

1891 census:
RG12/406, folio 36, page 12

London, Lambeth

41, Mayflower Road

Frederick C Abberline, h. mar. 48, Chief Inspector, Metropolitan Police, b. Dorset, Blandford
Emma, wife, mar. 41, b. Middlesex, NK

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:17 BST (UK) »
1891 Lambeth (Kennington Second) London
RG 12/406 folio 36 page 36
Address: 39 Mayflower Road
Frederick G Abberline, head, 48, chief inspector metropolitan police, Blandford Dorset
Emma, wife, 41, NK Middlesex

1901 Lambeth (Kennington Second) London
RG 13/423 folio 137 page 41
Address: 313 Clapham Road
Fredk Geo Abberline, head, 58m chief inspector of police, Blandford Dorset
Emma, wife, 51, Hoxton London
Plus two boarders and one servant.

So...

Frederick doesn't appear to have had any children (which kind of explains things).

If we're looking for surviving members of his family, what about descendants of his brother Edward?
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast
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