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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:22 BST (UK) »
1871 Aldershot, Hampshire
RG 10/819 folio 96 page 36

"Royal Engineers and Royal Engineer Department"
Edward Abberline, married, 31, corporal RE, Blandford Dorset
Hellan Abberline, wife, 22, British S[ubject] America
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:22 BST (UK) »
Edward m. Lily Beard and had at least 3 children accoring to FreeBMD
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:25 BST (UK) »
Can't see Edward in 1881, but that's unsurprising...

1891 Camberwell (Peckham) London
RG 12/480 folio 142 page 62

Redden Road "Board School"
Edward Abberline, head, 57, school keeper, Blanford Dorset
Ellen, wife, 43, Halifax America
Cora, daur, 17, Chatham Kent
Edward, son, 13, Malta
Lizzie Marsh, servant, 23. domestic servant, Old Kent Rd London
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:27 BST (UK) »
i know FreeBMD is not complete but:

Edward Abberline m. Lily Beard Q2 1911 Lewisham

they had the following children:

Violet H b. Q4 1911 Lewisham 1d 2004
Grace L b. Q1 1913 do. 1d 2191
Edna M Q2 1915 do. 1d 2119
 
Edward died age 76 Q1 1916 Greenwich 1d 1227
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:27 BST (UK) »
Quote from: toni* on Wednesday 18 July 07 19:22 BST (UK)
Edward m. Lily Beard and had at least 3 children accoring to FreeBMD

Good spot - that's probably Edward's son.

So we have at least three other members of the family...

Violet H Abberline (1911)
Grace L Abberline (1913)
Edna M Abberline (1915)
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:31 BST (UK) »
maybe it was Edwards son or maybe it was Edwards second marriage.

did you see his death?

also Edwards & Frederick mother Hannah died. Q4 1887 Blandford 5a 158 age 87
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:37 BST (UK) »
Yes - it might of been a second marriage, but Edward (Fredericks elder brother) would have been about 70 in 1911.

Frederick's niece also got married...

Cora ABBERLINE
Dec qtr 1896, Camberwell vol 1d page 1591
to either
Harry LINDLEY
or Francis James LONG

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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:41 BST (UK) »
Edward junior definitely married Lily Beard...

Commonwealth War Graves Commission
Name: Edward Abberline
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Age: 66
Date of death: 24 June 1944
"Husband of Lily Abberline of 2 Windsor Road, Liverpool, Lancashire. Died at 6 Elmscott Road."
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Headstone for Ripper hunt officer ~ how nice, but where is the family ???
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 19:45 BST (UK) »
Well that brings us well forward!

I wonder if they had any children perhaps the address has a clue?

Thanks for all your interest!!!

Wendi  :)
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unless it agrees with your own reason and with your own common sense" ~ Buddha

SCOTT ~ Monmouthshire & Glamorgan
BUCKLEY ~ Cork & Manchester
FRANKLIN ~ Clerkenwell, London
BRADY ~ Kildare & Manchester
DERICK ~ France
FRIEND ~ Kent & Portsmouth
TYLDESLEY ~ Lancashire
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