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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 01 March 20 10:32 GMT (UK) »
William James Menere Death Notice from Argus newspaper (Melbourne) 13 September 1861

MENERE.—On the 13th inst., at his residence, Keilor
Plains, after long years of suffering, Mr. William
James Menere, eldest son of the late Lieutenant
Joseph Menere, Portman-square, London, and for-
merly cloth-merchant in Dundalk, North of Ireland,
aged fifty-one. Resting on the Atonement, his end
was peace.

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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
« Reply #46 on: Friday 12 February 21 10:43 GMT (UK) »
For anyone interested, this is what I have put together: (Part 1)


1.   Charles Maniere
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Birth:   Unknown.
Death:   Unknown.
Spouse:   Francoise Touron.   
Birth:   Unknown.
Death:   Unknown.
Marr:   Unknown.

Children:   Unknown.



1. 1. Joseph Francois Menere (1770 – 1847) (also spelled Maniere on French documents)
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Birth:   1770 in Terrasson-Lavilledieu, Sarlat, Dordogne, Aquitaine, France.
           (Source: Dordogne, Church and Civil Registration, 1540 – 1896).   
Death:   30 May 1847 at 10 Adams Street, Marylebone, London aged 77 years.
Buried:   3 June 1847 at All Souls Cemetery, Marylebone.
Occ:           Sculptor (1793 identity card); Servant on death certificate; grocer on Sarah’s death
                certificate.
Cause of Death:   Cancer of the mouth (5 months).

Spouse:   Toinette Lacombe (Father Pierre Lacombe; mother Toinette Dumond).
Birth:   1778 at Chalfont St. Peter or 1779 at Wendover, Buckinghamshire.
Death:   Unknown, but before 1809.
Marr:   17 December 1792 in France.

Spouse:   Sarah Prickett.
Birth:   1779 at Chalfont St. Peter, Buckinghamshire, England (possible alternative: Wendover,
                Buckinghamshire, England).
Death:   9 February 1877 at Chalfont St. Peter, Buckinghamshire, England.
Cause of death:    Natural decay.
Marr:   13 April 1809 in St. George’s C of E Hanover Square, Middlesex, London by Banns. Joseph’s name recorded as Menarey, an Irish Huguenot name

Children:   Joseph (About 1809 at St. Mary at Lambeth, Surrey - ).
           William James (1812 in London – 13 September 1861 at Keilor Plains, Victoria).
           Sarah (1814 at Grosvenor Square, London – 1894; married name Ballard).
                Mary (1817 at Queen Street, Mayfair, Westminster, Middlesex – December 1861 at
                Uxbridge, Middlesex). Birth surname recorded as Menarey.
           Edward Joseph (1821 at Westminster – December 1867 at Uxbridge, Middlesex).

Notes:   
   Joseph and Toinette were living at Rue Chateaulandon 13, Paris, Seine, France on 6 Sept 1793. Place of residence before this date: Aux Invalides.
   In 1809 Bishops Transcript marriage records names are given as Joseph Menarey and Sarah Prickett.
   Quite a number of sculptors in France at the time worked on churches and had accidents during the construction and therefore the church paid a pension.  Some continued to work in a limited way. This is possibly what happened to Joseph.
   Having an injury might explain why Joseph died as a servant if he was unable to work.
   Residence in 1814: Duke Street, Mayfair, Westminster. Occupation: Valet. This residence listed on Sarah’s baptism certificate.
   Residence 8 May 1817 was Queen Street, Mayfair, Westminster. This address on Mary’s baptism record (surname given as Menarey).
   11 August 1836 residence Charles Street, Berkeley Square, London. Contents insured by Sun Fire Office Insurance (later Sun Alliance and now Royal and Sun Alliance Group, Inc. National Archives (UK) Ms.11936/551/1228694.
   1841 residence: Hampden Row hamlet, Parish of Great Hampden, Buckinghamshire. Occupation: Independent means.
   Residence 12 July 1846: St. Marylebone, London. Occupation: Gentleman.
   Residence at time of death 29 May 1847: 10 Adam Street East, St. Marylebone. Address at time of death.
   There is a suggestion in a reliable Ancestry source that Joseph was a Lieutenant either in the army or navy. No records available.
   1851 residence: 23 Spring Street, St, Marylebone, Middlesex. Widow. A lodger in the house of James Vickery, along with Ann Prickett (possibly her sister).
   1861 residence: Grey Hound Inn, Chalfont St. Peter, Buckinghamshire. Living with daughter, Sarah Ballard (nee Menere).
   1871 residence: Grey Hound Inn, Chalfont St. Peter, Buckinghamshire.





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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
« Reply #47 on: Friday 12 February 21 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Here's part 2:

1.1.   William James Menere
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Birth:   2/3 August 1809 in Grosvenor Square, London. Baptised 5 August 1809.
Death:   13 September 1861 at Keilor, Victoria, Australia (no death certificate available).   
Occ:           Merchant tailor.
Spouse:   Matilda Frances Mead.
Birth:   1820/1
Death:   7 March 1890 at Wallan, Victoria, aged 69 years. Funeral 8 March 1890.
Arrival:   1851 (Evelina born aboard the ship “Ameer” off Indonesia on 15 October 1851).
Marr:   20 March 1843 at St. Mary’s Church, Cheltenham, Gloucester, England. The marriage certificate records that their address was 1 Olney Place, Cheltenham, Gloucester. This street does not exist. It’s likely that it was 1 Albany Street, and the address was a transcription error. Fathers Joseph Menere (gentleman) and Meshack Mead (plumber). Married by William Hawkins (Curate).

Children:   Henri William (24 May 1844 at Dundalk, Louth, Ireland – 27 September 1891 at 321 Station Street, North Carlton, Melbourne) Born at Dundalk, Louth, Ireland. Baptised 16 April 1845 at Cheltenham, Somerset. Married Evalina Benson in 1867.
                Elizabeth Mary (1846/7 – 3 April 1905 at 9 Post Office Place, South Melbourne) Born at Dundalk, Louth, Ireland. 31 July 1866 married George H. Veach (son of James Veach, contractor originally from Truro, Cornwall) at St. John’s Church, Malmsbury. Address at time of marriage: Bute Street, Footscray. Rev. H. C. Watson conducted the ceremony.
                George Edward (1847 – 1 January 1885) Born at Dublin, Ireland. Died of heart disease in Normanton, Queensland aged 37 years.
           Fanny Matilda (1848/9 – 1898 at Prahran, Melbourne) Born at Dundalk, Louth, Ireland.
                Louisa Sarah (1850 in Dublin – 13 December 1926 at Taradale, Victoria) Born at Dublin, Ireland.
                Eveline Emma (15 October 1851 – 5 November 1931 at Footscray, Melbourne) at sea off the coast of Sulawesi Tengah, Indonesia on the barque “Ameer” sailing to Australia from the UK (Source: William James Menere document). Christened 16 April 1856 at Wesleyan Chapel, Prahran.
                Frank Charles (1855 at Prahran, Victoria – 1856). Family residence at this time in Melbourne.
                Marion Frances (1857 – 1954) at Keilor Plains, Victoria, Australia. Married James McDonald on 14 June 1884 in house of Marion’s sister in Bute Street, Footscray. Rev. John Clark (Presbyterian Church) officiated.

Notes:   
   1851 census gives William’s occupation as Gentleman annuitant. Address was 62 Church Hill, Brislington, parish of Bath (now a suburb of Bristol). It’s possible that the family was living at this address prior to embarking for Australia (census was taken on 30 March 1851; Eveline was born aboard the ship off Indonesia in November 1851).
   Matilda’s parents’ residence in 1834 was 1 Albany Place Cheltenham UK.
   Matilda re-married on 12 March 1867. Married George Jones.

1. Marion Frances Menere
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Birth:   1857 at Keilor Plains, Melbourne (birth certificate not on Victorian BDM).
Death:   20 January 1954 at Woodend, Victoria, aged 96 years.
Cause of Death:   Cardio-vascular degeneration (2 years); senility (5 years).

Spouse:   John Roderick McDonald
Birth:   1854
Death:   27 September 1937 at Woodend, Victoria.
Marr:   14 June 1884 at Bute Street, Footscray (now Seddon), Melbourne (by special licence).

Children:   Marion Margaret (1884 - )
                Olive Frances (9 June 1886 at Wallan Wallan, Victoria – 16 January 1956 at Woodend). Cause of death: Cerebral thrombosis (4 days); Diabetes mellitus (20 years).
                Jessie Grace (18 June 1888/9 at Wallan Wallan, Victoria - 2 February 1922 at Woodend, Victoria). Cause of death: diabetes cardiac failure (indefinite).
           James (1889 - )
           John Farquhar (1894 – 1965 at Ormond, Melbourne)
           Norman Murchison (1898 -
Notes:   
•   Jessie Grace was unmarried. She was a trained nurse.

1. Olive Frances McDonald
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Birth:   9 June 1886 at Wallan Wallan, Victoria.
Death:   16 January 1956 at Woodend, Victoria.
Spouse:   Robert Harold Dial.
Birth:   Oct 1880 at Donald Victoria.
Death:   23 Oct 1959 at Heidelberg Repatriation Hospital, Melbourne.
Cause of Death:   Cardiac failure (1 week), bronchopneumonia (weeks), pleural effusion (build-up of excess fluid between the layers of the pleura outside the lungs) (indefinite), diabetes (indefinite).
Marr:   30 April 1919 at Presbyterian Church, Woodend (Rev D. G. Baillie officiating).

Children:   Patricia Violet (1920- 2002)