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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 14:56 BST (UK) »
OK then -

As you say, the 1851 census shows William James MENERE aged 39 with wife Matilda F, and five Irish-born children, living in Brislington.  William's age ties in with the 1812 birthdate you cite.  Unfortunately he gives his birthplace only as London which is not as precise as one might hope!

What a shame Joseph died before 1851 - still, if he can be found in 1841 it should at least give some indication of where he was born.  Off to look for him...

Anna

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 15:25 BST (UK) »
My goodness, these MENEREs are hard to find ;)

Edward Joseph may have married twice - I see the marriage to Hannah in 1841, the birth of Edward William, and the birth and death of baby Martha.  There is then another marriage of an Edward Joseph MENERE in Lewisham, Mar 1856, to Amelia ALLEN or Mary Ann MARRIOTT, and a death in Uxbridge in Dec 1861 of a Mary MENERE, who may or may not be the same person as the former Mary Ann MARRIOTT.

But whoever can find any of these people in any census is a better person than I ;)

Of course, none of this tells you whether they were or were not descended from Huguenots, but sometimes the piecing together of the jigsaw throws up unexpected evidence!
 
Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 15:42 BST (UK) »
This looks interesting:

Boyd's marriage index has a marriage of

Jos MENERE and Sara PRICKETT

St George, Hanover Square, 1809


Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 15:47 BST (UK) »
Some burials from the London burials index 1538-1872:


1844 MENERE Edward William aged 1, All Hallows, London Wall

1846 MENERE Martha aged 5 months, St James, Duke's Place
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 16:39 BST (UK) »
If anyone researching any Huguenots has the chance to get to the Society of Genealogists, have a look or get someone to look at their records of the Huguenots. They have a huge collection of info. & when I was researching my own Huguenot ancestors there I found complete family trees, wills, an overwhelming amount of info.   

Another point of interest re. Huguenots, they tended to gather & live in close communities, in Essex around Chelmsford, Canterbury in Kent &, of course, Spitalfields in London.  When the Hugenots arrived here they had no church of their own & the first place they stayed was Canterbury & the Cathedral authorities made them welcome & gave them part of the Crypt of the Cathedral as their own church.    I have a letter from the Pastor of the Eglise Protestante Francaise de Canterbury dated 1929 confirming there were 5 entries for baptisms for my Huguenot ancestors c 1656 in the church records & I believe 2 members were actually buried in the Crypt. There is another quirky thing, many Huguenots did not marry in their own French Churches after they were established as it was considered too expensive, they married in the established C of E churches.

I wish you well with your Huguenot research it is a fascinating subject.

http://www.sog.org.uk/

Meliora
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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 19 July 07 15:11 BST (UK) »
Hi

I noticed Bucks mentioned in one of the references. There was a large influx of Belgian Hugenots into Bucks where they became involved in the local lacemaking industry. Over 100,000 came over to England in the late 1500s followed by another wave in the 1600s.

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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
« Reply #15 on: Friday 03 August 07 08:57 BST (UK) »
This looks interesting:

Boyd's marriage index has a marriage of

Jos MENERE and Sara PRICKETT

St George, Hanover Square, 1809


Anna

I have access too the index of that church and can tell you the marriage occured on 14th April 1809.

Don't suppose it helps much,but there ya go!

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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
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Re: Huguenot or not Huguenot
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 09 August 07 23:16 BST (UK) »
This looks interesting:

Boyd's marriage index has a marriage of

Jos MENERE and Sara PRICKETT

St George, Hanover Square, 1809


Anna

Something which makes the above marriage even more interesting, which I hadn't seen before, is the entry for Sarah MENERE in 1851.  She's transcribed as Sarah MENEZE, widow, 71 born Bucks, living as lodger with a VICKERY (I think, but transcribed Vuchary) family at the Rectory, St Marylebone.  The other lodger at the address?  An Ann PRICKETT, unmarried, 70, born Bucks. I'd bet my bottom dollar she's Sarah's sister or cousin.

HO107/1488 folio 328 p56.

Anna :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)