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ANDREWS family help please!
« on: Tuesday 17 July 07 10:20 BST (UK) »
I have obtained the birth certificate of Nicholas George Andrews born 1857 to a Thomas and Elizabeth . They lived at Tormanham Devon ( now part of Torquay)which all fits perfectly.

The problem is The mothers name on the certificate states Elizabeth Andrews formally Winsor.
So I looked under Winsor and Andrews for a marriage some years before 1857. I used ancestry and Free BDM

I cant seem to find such an event. I can find a Thomas marriage to an Elizabeth Vine in Stoke Damerel 1851 which sort of fits but it’s a Vine!!

There are a few Elizabeth Winsor’s but none married to an Andrews.
The key thing is the certificate which indicates Andrews.

Using Free BDM I have found I have 3 possibilities of Elizabeth and 4 Thomas but no real links

Stumped.

 ???

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Re: ANDREWS family help please!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 10:54 BST (UK) »
In case it's any help this may be her in earlier census

1851
Compton, Marldon, Devon
William and Jane Ottaway, Farmer and their family
Servants including Henry Stoneman, George Damrell, and
Elizabeth Winser Servant Un 18 House Servant (Farm) Devon Marldon
HO107; Piece: 1873; Folio: 10; Page: 13

I wonder if there's any way she could have been married previous to marrying Thomas.

1841 Marldon Village, Devon
All born in County
John Winsor 40
Agness 40
Ellen 13
Mary Ann 11
Elizabeth 9
Thomas 7
Jane 5
George 2
Elias 1 month
Class: HO107; Piece 228; Book: 8;  Folio: 5; Page: 4

I notice that Thomas and Elizabeth named their second known son Elias also
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: ANDREWS family help please!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 11:02 BST (UK) »
Wonder if it's just coincidence that in the 1851 household there was a George Damrell working in the household.

One of the marriages - June Qtr 1853 Plympton St. M has a Thomas Damerell Andrews
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: ANDREWS family help please!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 16:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mary....I'll sit down and see if I can make sense of it all!!