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searchertwo

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Lead Mine deaths help
« on: Saturday 07 July 07 19:07 BST (UK) »
I've been trying to find the death of Matthew Lee he was alive in 1851 (63yrs on census) but his wife is down as a window in 1861 They lived in Mosswood Shotley Low Quarter from 1841-1871 Hexham office has looked at all the deaths 1851-1861 and found nothing .I'm now trying Durham but so far the certificates I've sent for are wrong  .As he was a leadminer (don't know which mine) if he was killed at work would there be a certificate issued ?.Alternatively is there a list of lead mines in that area that I could search ?

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Re: Lead Mine deaths help
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 July 07 21:11 BST (UK) »
S2

Have you eliminated the death of Matthew Watson Lee, registered with Hexham Registration District Office, in the March ( 3rd) Quarter of 1852 ?
(Shotley etc lay within the juridiction of Hexham RDO)

You ask " would there be a certificate issued ? "

After 1837 a burial could not take place without a Death Certificate, which was issued by the Register Office, after a death had been reported ( and "proved" by a doctor's "cause of death" cert.)

I know nothing about lead mines, but a death in a cold mine would just be registered with the RO, just like a " normal" death. No special cerificate.... but the mine authorities would investigate the death, from a safety etc context.

I notice that Matthew/Mary named a son Walton, as did their son ? Robert. !

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GALLAGHER ( + variations).
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Re: Lead Mine deaths help
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 July 07 09:16 BST (UK) »
yes I spoke to the lady in the Hexham office she looked at all the Matthew Lee deaths up until june of 1861 and none were the right age or were married to Mary.  All the other death ,births etc have been with the Hexham office so Matthews death should have been with them. (Robert his son died 1864 also a leadminer was registered in Hexham)I think I need to find what lead mines were close to where they lived ,All the sons became lead miners and continued after they married to live in Mosswood

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 July 07 09:43 BST (UK) »
S2,

I notice in previous message I wrote "cold" instead of "coal".

I must have got the hex from you. You wrote "window" instead of "widow" LOL.

Even if you find the lead mine that they worked at, I do not know what advantage that would give you.

Again I am more familiar with coal mines, but records of particular coal mines rarely mention  miners names. Loads on how deep the shaft was, and how much water was in the mine, etc.

Maybe you could research newspapers of the day, for reports of any mine fatalities. ( I think the Hexham Courant covered the area)

 I wish you luck in your search.

Michael Dixon
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Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
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Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 July 07 11:42 BST (UK) »
REmember the death cert is issued in the place they died not where they lived.  He could well have died in COrnwall but beenremoved back to Hexham for burial etc.  I would suggest a search of the GRO records and if he is not there then look at the alternatives such as he left his wife and ran off elsewhere.  To avoid her embarrassment she told the enumerator of the 1861 census that she was widowed. 

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Re: Lead Mine deaths help
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 July 07 12:44 BST (UK) »
this website could help, or help anyone else looking for mining death
http://www.dmm.org.uk/names/names_le.htm
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 July 07 22:42 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have some info on Matthew Lee as he has a link into my family tree. I don't know how he died but the parish record entry in NBL Record Office for St Andrews Church Shotley gives the following info: 6 Nov 1853 Matthew Lee, Mosswood, 66 years.

Hope this is of help.

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 July 07 08:53 BST (UK) »
thank you so much Matthew was my ggg grandfather

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 June 15 06:47 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have some info on Matthew Lee as he has a link into my family tree. I don't know how he died but the parish record entry in NBL Record Office for St Andrews Church Shotley gives the following info: 6 Nov 1853 Matthew Lee, Mosswood, 66 years.

Hope this is of help.

mim 


I think I'm going to have to give up on ever finding a actual death certificate for this man,the above is def his burial but over the years I've done searches looking for a matthew  (with no surname in the box )in all districts, searched for Lee and all the spelling variations I can think of still no joy  :'( I sent for one in Dewsbury but that turned out to be a 6 week old baby .I wish I could just let go and not keep searching but it's one of those that bug me ,it's got to be there somewhere
Lee ,Elliott.Hall,Robson ,McDarby