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Re: Blakey family on 1851 census
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 14 November 07 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Princel,

Thank you for that information.  It confirms some of what I had surmised and adds a bit extra!  I have ordered the death certificate of Mary Blakey and birth and marriage certificate of Charles Blakey.  I have had a bit of a search on Ancestry and found a second marriage for a Hugh Blakey to an Elizabeth Eyre in 1907 (1907 (O-N-D); Belper, Derbyshire; Vol. 7b; p. 1413).  Could be one of them.

Charles Blakey married Elizabeth Mitchell (1870) and they had seven children.  I have found them on all census from 1851 to 1901.  I know that two of their sons married and had children; the rest may have done so - I do not know.  The eldest son (b. 1873) married Elizabeth Marriott (b. 1878).  They are my mother-in-law's grandparents.

My mother-in-law was brought up in Smalley, hence I too have been looking on the Smalley one place study pages.  I have found William Ottewell and his wife Ann, but no link to the Blakey's.  I put a query on the post:   Re: Smalley people - HALLSWORTH; CRESWELL; ROE; WOOLLANDS; WOOLLEY et al; you will can find the answers there.  Hugh and Octavia Blakey will be added soon!

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Re: Blakey family on 1851 census
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 November 07 21:47 GMT (UK) »
That's so exciting! I'm asking my mother if she remembers my grandmother ever talking about an Elizabeth. She's not mentioned it so far, but I'm hoping the name might generate some memories! My grandmother, Winifred Mary Blakey, was bron & brought up in Smalley. She moved 'dpwn south' to teach, but ironically my sister has ended up living fairly close, so I've popped across to Smalley when I've visited her occassionally. I'll keep digging.
Looking up the Blakey Woolley Kyte Mellor & Cresswell families in Derbyshire (around Smalley area), Tweedale & Prince families of Wakefiled/Sunderland, and the Cheeseman, Brading & Axworthy families (amongst others!)

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Re: Blakey family on 1851 census
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 November 07 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Just jumping in from the other thread; the Ottewell and Woolley pages have been amended and uploaded -

I still can't make all the connections but I'm hoping that the certificates will shed some light.
Just for the record, Hugh Blakey is on the 1891 census in Smalley


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Re: Blakey family on 1851 census
« Reply #12 on: Monday 17 December 07 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Certificates have arrived and open up more questions than they solve.

Birth certificate of Charles Blakey: born at 7 half minutes past 4 o'clock on 15 Jan 1845 (therefore the younger twin); no father's name given; mother: Mary Blakey, Horsley Woodhouse.

I am guessing that this makes Charles illegitimate - two reasons: there is no father and Mary does not have a maiden name, only Blakey.

Marriage certificate of Charles Blakey and Elizabeth Mitchell: married on 7 Mar 1870; both full age and living at Horsley Woodhouse; he was a bachelor and a nail maker, his father was Charles Hurst?, a labourer; she was a spinster and  fwk, her father was Zephariah Buon?, a coalminer.  The witnesses were Hugh Blakey and Ann Wood.

Pincel: I do not think that it says Charles Hugh; the surname is normally given and Blakey is not there.  Secondly the second name (Hugh/ Hurst) does not have any letters below the line, therefore cannot be Hugh.  If they were illegitimate, it would make sense that they have their mother's name, not their father's.

It also looks like I have a problem with Elizabeth Mitchell, whose father's surname is not Mitchell, so may be she is illegitimate as well!  I can find an Elizabeth Mitchell of the right age in Horsley Woodhouse on the 1851 and 1861 census's (Class: HO107; Piece: 2144; Folio 308, p. 9 and Class: RG9; Piece: 2508; Folio 99, p. 20) who is the daughter-in-law of Samuel and Elizabeth Wood (I assume that means step-daughter).  They also have a daughter Ann Wood; she might be the witness.

The death certificate for Mary Blakey (1852 (A-M-J); Belper, Derbyshire; Vol. 7b; p. 251) states that she died on 15 May 1852 at Horsley Woodhouse, aged 38 years.  She was the wife of William Blakey, labourer.  The informant was a Sarah Ottewell.  So it does not seem that this is the same Mary Blakey and I cannot find another who died between 1851 and 1861 in Horsley Woodhouse on Ancestry.

Any thoughts, anyone?

Chilibear.
Merrall, Ayres, Waterfield, Cotton - Leicester
Slater - Leicester, Derbyshire, Buckinghamshire
Blakey, Moult - Derbyshire