Where are Gartmillen, Ryden and Hagmoor?

[Richard Knott]

The attached images are from the parish records of Old and New Monkland.
William Jack was a farmer, moving to Wester Braco, Shotts, in about 1795.
The 1775 entry says something like Ryden and Gartmillen Lane; the 1781 entry Hagmoor (??Hogmoor).
I can find the odd reference to Gartmillen and Ryden but I don't know where they are.
Any help pinning them down would be good.
Richard

[bekahsgran]

Hi
Could only find one reference to Gartmillen.
It says Hamilton and Campsie and mentions New Monkland
Does that mean anything to you?
Anne

[bekahsgran]

Hi
There is also a reference to:
New Monkland (Ryden Mains) Cemetery, Lanarkshire, Scotland

references but no details
Anne

[Richard Knott]

I'm afraid none of the names mean much; I was just hoping to find where the places were and see if they still exist.
Thanks for looking.
Richard

[ADP]

All three locations can be seen on the following current map, a short distance north of Airdrie and Coatbridge.

current 1:50000 Ordnance Survey map

On the 1890s map these can be seen in the west side of New Monkland parish, close to the boundary with Old Monkland.

http://www.nls.uk/maps/early/os_scotland_2nd_ed_list.html
Sheet 31 - Airdrie
New Monkland is the large yellow coloured parish in the centre of that map. Zoom in on it, close to the northernmost point of Old Monkland parish (the pink coloured parish to the west of New Monkland). They are all west and south-west of the "New" part of the parish name text.

ADP

[Richard Knott]

Thanks very much.
The second one also shows their next home (Castle Speals) as well, another one I was struggling to find.
I wonder whether it was economic necessity that required them to move so often, or other reasons.
Richard

[samgate]

I have just come across your query about Hagmoor (dated July 07) while researching James Jack of Wester Bracco, my ggg grandfather. I wasn't sure if William & Margaret Morton were his parents, but your question seems to confirm it. Can you give me any other info about William & Margaret (I know they were married July 1774. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

[Richard Knott]

Welcome to Rootschat.

William and Margaret had at least eleven children: Jean (1775), James (1777), William (1779), John (1781), Mary (1783), Ann (1786), Thomas (1788), Janet (1792), John (1794), Margaret (1796) and Agnes (1800). The baptismal records of 1792 and 1794 decsribe him as a farmer, as do the death certificates of four of his children. In 1796 and 1800 he was decribed as a 'tenant'.

My main interest is in building up as complete a picture of his son Thomas's life as I can (he was an innkeeper/farmer), so I need to know a little about William's life inasmuch as it coincides with Thomas' early life; I have little interest in taking the tree back further.

I will send you a PM with my email address as you won't be able to send PMs until you have made a few more posts.

Richard

[samgate]

Thank you very much. Have just discovered RootsChat and was very excited to find the reference to William Jack. Must read the rules now and find out what I can and can't do!