Frederick Ellis Gray b. Abt. 1915, Oxford

[cguil_uk]

Hi, I am doing some research for my Brother in Law - Robert Gray from Brighton, Sussex. He has asked me to research his parent's tree but I am having difficulty locating the families. Any help would be appreciated.

His Father was Frederick Ellis Gray b. Abt. 1915, Oxford, d. Abt. Jan 1983 Brighton. m. Abt. 1937 Ivy Constance May Coulson b. 1910 Cambridge d. Feb 1988 Brighton.

[wozzle]

It would help you if you could get Frederick Ellis Gray's birth certificate. You would then be able to find his parents names and then work your way back to the 1901 census. And through the 1901 census you could then go further back.

[tazzie]

    Hi

  Have looked up his death record Jan 1983.
  Date of birth is given as 30 July 1911.
  A birth for 3rd q 1911 lists ...Frederick E Gray
                                               mmn Montague
                                         district Wycombe
                                           vol 3a page 1911.


                   Tazzie

[wozzle]

possible marriage FREDERICK GRAY 1907 at WYCOMBE  QTR.JAN/FEB/MAR. VOLUME 3A PAGE 1156.
COUNTY,  BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, OXFORDSHIRE
On the same page as Frederick Gray is Agnes Alice Montague.

[wozzle]

Could only find one Agnes Montague living in High Wycombe in 1901 that would fit the bill.

1901 CENSUS  RG13/1347/91/5.
James Montague age 49 Born Buckinghamshire occ. working on railway
Charlotte Montague age 45 Born Buckinghamshire
Elizabeth Montague age 20 Born Camberwell London
John Montague age 18 Born Camberwell London occ. painter
Agnes Montague age 16 Born Camberwell London occ. domestic servant
James Montague age 14 Holborn London occ. bakers assistant
Joseph Montague age 12 Born  Holborn London
Alfred Montague age 9 Born High Wycombe.

YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO WORK YOUR WAY BACK FROM THIS SIDE OF THE GRAY-MONTAGUE FAMILY (if this is the right agnes montague).
THE OTHER SIDE IS GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT

[cguil_uk]

Could only find one Agnes Montague living in High Wycombe in 1901 that would fit the bill.

1901 CENSUS  RG13/1347/91/5.
James Montague age 49 Born Buckinghamshire occ. working on railway
Charlotte Montague age 45 Born Buckinghamshire
Elizabeth Montague age 20 Born Camberwell London
John Montague age 18 Born Camberwell London occ. painter
Agnes Montague age 16 Born Camberwell London occ. domestic servant
James Montague age 14 Holborn London occ. bakers assistant
Joseph Montague age 12 Born  Holborn London
Alfred Montague age 9 Born High Wycombe.

YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO WORK YOUR WAY BACK FROM THIS SIDE OF THE GRAY-MONTAGUE FAMILY (if this is the right agnes montague).
THE OTHER SIDE IS GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT

  Tazzie was talking about his birth - Montague is a district. Please read original message.

Thanks anyway 

[cguil_uk]

    Hi

  Have looked up his death record Jan 1983.
  Date of birth is given as 30 July 1911.
  A birth for 3rd q 1911 lists ...Frederick E Gray
                                               mmn Montague
                                         district Wycombe
                                           vol 3a page 1911.


                   Tazzie

Thanks Tazzie

I just cannot understand why I could not find him. I tried all the usual sites - free BMD, familysearch etc. - to no avail. Where did you get this information from please?

Regards

Clive

[cguil_uk]

possible marriage FREDERICK GRAY 1907 at WYCOMBE  QTR.JAN/FEB/MAR. VOLUME 3A PAGE 1156.
COUNTY,  BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, OXFORDSHIRE
On the same page as Frederick Gray is Agnes Alice Montague.

Ahhh! now I get it! your talking about his parents - I need a brain implant!   

Thanks Sorry about the confusion 

Clive

[cguil_uk]

Thanks for your help on this guys.

I cannot understand what I did wrong here. I inputed the data correctly on both Ancestry & free BMD and nothing came up 

I am still having trouble with tracking down his marriage to Ivy Coulson in Abt. 1937. I have expanded it to 20 years and tried Soundex and nothing happens.