Halliday/Carruthers Hutton & Corrie or elsewhere

[Jeffrey]

Hello,
Is there any one else researching Halliday at Finnigal/Finnigill Hutton & Corrie.

I have a Margaret HALLIDAY born 1770 Finnigal H & C who was my 4X Great grandmother.

Her parents were:
John HALLIDAY  don't know date of birth or where he came from. Couple of contenders on Scotland People.
One born 1737 at Johnstone the other born 1745 at Langholm.

Has any one any ideas?

Correction about Margaret's mother. Now know to be Rosina CARRUTHERS
John HALLIDAY of Finnigal & Rosina CARRUTHERS married 1763 at Hutton & Corrie. No further information on the marriage entry.

Any help would be gratefully received or contact with any one else researching these families.

Judy

I have modified this post 10/1/2008 on finding futher information. Thanks to people who helped.

[anne-louise7]

Hi Judy,
I have found  from kirk session info Hutton and Corrie -John Halliday married Agnes Graham 1761 - which you have already.
I have a few trees from this Hutton and corrie area but can't seem to place your John and Agnes ??
I probably won't get time now to pull everything out before Christmas but would very much like to persue your line adn compare with the info I have.. Our halliday's from around this area as well. Also have a few trees with contacts that may help..Please let me know if you've found any more info since June 07
kind regards Anne-Louise Halliday (Australia)

[Jeffrey]

Hi Anne-Louise,
Nothing further on the Hallidays. There are so quite a few around that area but the John I have I just can not place him at all.


If he was an Agricultural Labourer then he could have moved around quite a bit.

Make contact in the New Year & I would be interested in anything to get my John a little further back.

Thank you
Judy

[anne-louise7]

Hi again Judy,
yes I will get more time in January but a few things.. I have Bell's in DFS and Little's in Cumberland in our tree!
Also if your JOhn Halliday was born in JOhnstone 1737 then John Halliday and Margaret Dinwoody are his parents. have you applied the Scots naming pattern to see if margaret fits for your Margaret 4xg grandmother?
Also if this is the case then I am sure - without pulling out all my files that I have a tree for a halliday marrid to a Dinwoodie or Dinwoody. I know ther are two halliday's married to females with this name.. need to check so don't get too excited!
I see there was a margaret Halilday born to JOhn Halluadh in H&C in both 1766 and 1770 as well as a 2 x Jean Halliday born to a John Halliday in 1764 and 1767 - you probbly already have this and I would make better use of my time by finding hte tree's I have..
will get back to you. regards Anne-Louise Halliday

[anne-louise7]

me again.. I was trying to iran as well as look at info and realised I did not put spell check on!! excuse the spelling mistakes!
AL

[anne-louise7]

Me again Judy.. and now you can start to get mildy excited.
I've found what I thought my memory could recall..
We have to find out if your JOhn Halliday was born in 1737 to John Halliday and margaret Dinwoody ( Dinwody or Dinwoodie Ive seen various spellings)
IF this is the case then you have a large well researched tree by at least 3 other Halliday researchers.
I made contact with a lady in Canada last year and was able to put her in contact with 2 others from her tree as well as a fellow who lives in Edinburgh and has written an extensive paper on this family. It was 93 pages of hand written info which I have typed up and hopefully the typed copy was passed onto him in Edinburgh.
On the tree that I have in front of me it has JOhn Halliday born in DFS in 1705. He died July 28th 1786. Married Margaret Dinwoody in ??
John was the son of Matthew Halliday born 1676 and Margaret Thorburn.  All the family where around H&C   so this makes perfect sense with your margaret and John/agnes.
In both the sources of info I have here neither has any further info about John Halliday and Margaret Dinwoody !! so are you the missing link??

Somehow we have to find out more about your John and whether he was born in 1737.
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so I can share further info with you and contacts.
In the mean time I'll do some looking for any evidence that may help with your John. Although it sounds like you may have exhausted all sources?
Also need more info, if you have it,  on any other children to your John and Agnes so we can try and look at naming patterns..
JOhn born 1705 had a brother William born 1707 - his side of the family is well documented... just not his brother John's as mentioned before..  hoep that all makes sense
look forward to your further contact.
Anne-Louise Halliday

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[Jeffrey]

Hi Ann-Louise,
Just a very quick reply - holiday stress getting to me!!!

Children of JOhn & Agnes Graham (they married 1761 H&C)Agnes Graham was Bpt Pyattshaws H&C in 1745 Her father was a William no mother given

Jean Bpt Finnigill H&C 16 Sep 1764
James Bpt Finnigate 8 Jul 1767
Margaret Finnigate Bpt 13 Mar 1770
She is my ancester and went on to Have a child Agnes Bpt1801 with a aman called William Bell he was Bpt Stiddriggs H&C 1752

That is all for now. Have answereed on this address as the other information was here
Cheers and getting quite excited about this BUT as yet can not link my JOhn.

Judy

Can only find the 3 children to John & Agnes but wondered if there may be more as the first child was 1764 and they were married in 1761. And they are pretty well spread out. But there may not be.

[anne-louise7]

Hi again Judy,
catn' believe what I just read.. may really start to get us excited!
We have an Agnes bell who marrid into our halliday family. She was adopted by halliday's then married a William Halliday in 1840.
The only thing is that we have her born or Christened 12/11/1817.
I wonder if there is any chance that she is your Margaret's daughter Agnes Bell?

Do you have other details on Agnes Bell  that can discount this match up with our tree?
We have her death at Upper Mains Brydekirk 6/6/1873 - age 55 years? but anything is possible we know from these times in Scotland.. maybe she was Ch in 1817 but born in 1801?
She was buried in the Kirkconnel Churchyard of Springkell Estate owned by Sir Neil Johnson-Ferguson

Our Agnes Bell and William Halliday had:
James 1851,
Janet 1847
Jane 1848/40
Thomas 1853
I can give you more info if we think there may be more to this.

William above was born in 1804 son of James Halliday born 1766 in Middlebie and Janet Scott 1766/67.
James Halliday born 1766 ws the son of William Halliday born 1731 in Hutton and Corrie and Jean Little.
Again this is all your area and also the area of the trees I have that we can't link into our family.

Once we get into this a bit more I have to send you the trees and info I have but for now ok to keep the contact this way as others may see the messages too.

regarsd Anne-Louise Halliday