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Thomas FALLA Parish Record Lookup - Berwick
« on: Tuesday 19 June 07 21:31 BST (UK) »
Can anyone please lookup in the Belford Parish Records for the birth of Thomas Falla born in either 1763 or 1767.   He diedon 31/1/1818.   Had a number of children one of which was Selby Falla b 1783 Kirknewton, married to Ann Young 7/7/1809 and died in Beford 15/1/1863.
I would like to know the exact date of the birth of Thomas Falla and also the names of his parents.   I assume his marriage would be around 1780 ish so any information on a wife's name would be good too.
Thank you for looking.
Best wishes
Christine

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Re: Thomas FALLA Parish Record Lookup - Berwick
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 16:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Christine

There is a Thomas Falla baptised 27 Jun 1762 in Lilliesleaf, Roxburgh, Scotland which is not far from the border with Northumberland

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Re: Thomas FALLA Parish Record Lookup - Berwick
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 22:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the information Ashley.   I have made a note of this Thomas Falla.   I wonder if you are able to tell where he died?   I have since been to Woodhorn Colliery Archives in Ashington and found a death of a Thomas Falla 15th July 1811 in Belford.   He was aged 75 and his proffession was a 'shepherd'.   This Thomas would then have been born around 1736.   May be he was the father of the Thomas Falla that you have found and then they came back to Belford in Northumberland.   Let me know if you can find anything more out from your source of information.   
Much appreciated
Thanks very much for your help
Christine

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Re: Thomas FALLA Parish Record Lookup - Berwick
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 July 07 13:41 BST (UK) »
The Thomas Falla in Scotland had a father called Robert.

I'll take a look on the NBI when I'm at home this evening and see what I find.

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DU: Jones, Miller, Laverick, Orwin, Burn, Finlay, Robson, Robinson, Jobling, Fenwick, Spoor, Saunders, Billingsley, Appleby
NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley
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Re: Thomas FALLA Parish Record Lookup - Berwick
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 July 07 17:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ashley,
Do you think you could check the son too?   Selby Falla b 1783 who is down as dying in Belford 15/1/1863 but we can't find him.
Look forward to hearing from you tonight.
Thanks again
Best wishes
Christine

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Re: Thomas FALLA Parish Record Lookup - Berwick
« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 July 07 01:04 BST (UK) »
Christine,

A couple of snippets... right name, right place, but wrong era.

Belford Baptisms of two children of Selby and Ann Falla
25 Apr 1824 Isabella
14 Sep 1827 John.

Two Belford Parish Burials
11 Jan 1818 Thomas Falla, 5 years 6 months @Belford
13 Feb 1829 John Falla 20 months @ Belford.

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Re: Thomas FALLA Parish Record Lookup - Berwick
« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 July 07 11:24 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the info Michael.   I do have these already but thanks for checking.
I am really, really stuck with this Thomas Falla.   
I have Thomas Falla from the Family Search Web Site when I was looking at details for Selby Falla (his son).   Thomas is down on Family Search as Disc Number 69 and Pin Number 405730 (I don't know where I would get this Disc information from?).   This is how I have the connection of Thomas to Selby.
I have trouble with Selby too!!
Selby is down on some search sites as being born in Belford (which is where most of the family are) but on most sites he's down as being born in 1783 at Kirknewton, Northumberland and Died 15th Jan 1863 Belford Northumberland. 
I am unable to find any parish records for Selby's birth.  I do have a copy of his marriage banns to Ann Young in Belford 7th July 1809 and a witness at their marriage was a Sarah Falla.  I have to track this Sarah down yet.
However, I also cannot find a burial record for Selby Falla for 1863 at Belford so you can see I am really struggling here.
Any information that you do find I would be very interested in looking at.   I can check then that I do have it.
Thanks again for your help
Best wishes
Christine

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Re: Thomas FALLA Parish Record Lookup - Berwick
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 July 07 11:52 BST (UK) »
Christine,

Selby senior's birth parish/place ?

C1841 just states he was born in "this county".

C51 has him as native of Kirknewton ( this could either be KN parish or KN village... census enumerators instructed to record " parish or town of birth" )

C1861 has him born Belford (parish or village)

If I had to plump for Belford or Kirknewton, I would tend towards Kirknewton ( easy for Belford enumerator to bung down Belford, like for all the other Belfordians, more difficult to accept the "Kirknewton" entry from a Belford enumeraor as a mistake ??  And KN is some distance from Belford))

Were all his children bapt. in Belford Parish church ( C of E ) ?

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Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

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Re: Thomas FALLA Parish Record Lookup - Berwick
« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 July 07 13:08 BST (UK) »
Hello again Michael,
The children were all in the Belford Presbyterian Baptisms Register at Woodhorn Colliery Archives.
There was no entry for Selby in either the Belford or the Kirknewton register.
I take your point about the Kirknewton recording by the enumerator
Do you know anything about this Disc and Pin Number referencing on Family Search?
Best wishes
Christine