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Re: John Thomas Ball, Salford
« Reply #9 on: Monday 18 June 07 12:10 BST (UK) »
We need it to be 1872  :P
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« Reply #10 on: Monday 18 June 07 12:13 BST (UK) »
18 years & 2 months in July 1890 = April/May 1872  8)
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Re: John Thomas Ball, Salford
« Reply #11 on: Monday 18 June 07 12:18 BST (UK) »
Best match I can see for a marriage between John Thomas & Fanny (from LancashireBMD):

1871 - Manchester St John
John Thomas Ball - Fanny R Powell

Fanny Rebecca Ball
Death age 36
Dec quarter 1886
Manchester 8d 178 
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Re: John Thomas Ball, Salford
« Reply #12 on: Monday 18 June 07 12:20 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Tati on Monday 18 June 07 12:13 BST (UK)
18 years & 2 months in July 1890 = April/May 1872  8)

Do you make it 1890 from his attestation paper..?? I make it an 1892, and I have independent information from the Manchester Regiment Museum saying 1892 also..., rather vexing!

Shame.., 1890 would make it much more convenient!

Dave
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Ball - Manchester
Walton - Hereford
Chantry - London

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Re: John Thomas Ball, Salford
« Reply #13 on: Monday 18 June 07 12:43 BST (UK) »
Blimey - if everybody else sees it as 1892 then I suppose it is  :P
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Re: John Thomas Ball, Salford
« Reply #14 on: Monday 18 June 07 12:48 BST (UK) »
Is there any way it could be verified?? Assuming the birth register is the right one, is there any other way to confirm it..? Maybe on a wedding certificate?

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Re: John Thomas Ball, Salford
« Reply #15 on: Monday 18 June 07 13:18 BST (UK) »
Wedding certs don't give birth dates, only ages, and they're not necessarily correct  :-\ But then the witnesses might hold a clue ...

Do you know who and when he married?  :)
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Re: John Thomas Ball, Salford
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 19 June 07 13:16 BST (UK) »
Mary Elizabeth Hopkinson on 27/12/1902, shortly after he returned from South Africa (Boer War)

The details are again noted in his Army file which I have attached.

Witnesses are: Emma Hopkinson & Richard Sauer? Sauce? ;)

It was at St Simons, Salford (a common theme) and the Minister is listed also if it helps any.

Dave
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Ball - Manchester
Walton - Hereford
Chantry - London

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Re: John Thomas Ball, Salford
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 20 June 07 12:49 BST (UK) »
Is there a way to find out the school he attended.. possibly in Salford? This may be a way of confirming his siblings, although having no idea about the place there are probably a few schools in the area!

Dave
Murphy - Dundee
Ball - Manchester
Walton - Hereford
Chantry - London
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