missing info Dundee around 1880???

[greenvalley]

Some more info on Agnes Anderson nee Wilson

born 1823 in Auchrannie as the oldest daughter of Thomas Wilson and Margaret Simpson. There were 11 children in total

1823 Agnes married Eric Anderson
1825 Elizabeth
1827 Alexander
1829 Thomas
1831 James
1833 Margaret
1835 David
1839 John - my line
1843 Charles - married Jessie Jessiman
1845 William

I have detailed info on them all. As you can see, Agnes is 20 years older than her bother Charles, and her daughter Margaret (who married William Cookes) is only ten years younger than her uncle.

The picture below is of the Anderson family in Elgin in 1910, the old lady in the middle is Agnes Anderson (Wilson).

Greenvalley

[cowleydove]

It is very exciting to see this picture as it connects our two families. I also have the same picture, annotated by my great-uncle Cyril (Alice Wilson's brother). As you can see, it suggests it was take on the occasion of my great-great grandmother's 90th birthday in 1913 at Lossiemouth. Agnes' house was Oakbank in Elgin which is still standing and only on its 4th owner after 150 years. My wife and I visited it in 2008. The others in the picture are Agnes' children - starting top left
Thomas John                  b. Sep 17, 1858    d. Nov 23 1922
Alexander Wilson           b. Jul 22, 1854      d.Aug 12 1928
Margaret Simpson          b. Apr 11, 1852     d. Mar 30, 1937
Lewis                             b. Mar 6, 1850       d. Aug 1935
Elizabeth Lawson          b. May 21, 1861     d. Aug 25, 1921
Eric Sutherland              b. Jan 11, 1847      d. Dec 12, 1937

I have a family history book written by a cousin who added to research by other members of the family. It is entitled "The Moray Book of The Sutherlands of Duffus, The Andersons of Windmill, Drainie and Oakbank, Elgin. The Wilsons of Auchrannie and Tealing, Angus and The Cookes of Warwick and Braevilla, Elgin - Their relatives and descendants.

I am glad to share this book plus all the pictures and information that I have. I would be very happy to have any information that you have on the Wilson side of the family. The book details the many interactions between the three families (Wilson,Cookes and Andersons) but tends to concentrate on Cookes and Andersons as the collectors of the information came from those two families.

I would be happy to exchange information directly through email. Mine is * My name is Steve Dove

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[WilsonJud]

Hi Steve and Greenvalley
My grandfather Eric Anderson Wilson was the brother of John Jessiman Wilson.   As a very small child I remember, just, my mother took me to the Isle of Wight to see her Uncle John, my great uncle, and his wife Aunt Alice who I remember better.   I have a vague picture of Uncle John in my head.   I have two phtos of me on the beach at Ventnor I think.   There is a little boy on the beach with me.   Some years later I was told he, David, was drowned in the sea.   My cousin also remembers going to the Isle of White and he remembers meeting Aunt Alice a few times.

My mother was quite friendly with Uncle John's daughter Agnes and I went to see her sometimes so
I can still picture her face as it was in the fifties.  For a while she seemed to live in a mews flat int eh West End of London.  Her sister Molly is the one who died young I think.
She wrote a long letter to the family from India about her escape from the Japanses which is very interesting reading.   I still have a copy of the letter which was given to my mother.   I think she was married to Sam at the time, though later I think they split up.

  I was told by my mother that my grandfather lived with his Aunt in Elgin for sometime and that he used the name Anderson Wilson because it was her surname.
He wore a ring with a crest which my Mother wore afterwards, but I cannot think where that crest comes from.   Unfortunately he died in London when my mother was 15 and my aunt was 11.    I think he was 55.
   
I have some photos of him from 1913 with his wife my granny and my mother as a 3 year old.    In my granny's writing it says July 1913 Easrwood Broughty Ferry.   I have a good picture of him taken perhaps in India where he went for a spell.  I have not been able to attach it yet.

WilsonJud

[cowleydove]

Wilsonjud,
 It was great to read your post. All the details you mention fit exactly with my knowledge of family history. I am off to work it a couple of minutes but will reply in more detail tonight.
Steve

[greenvalley]

WilsonJud

so nice to hear from another Wilson! Are you living in the UK? Perhaps even near Dundee?

I have been putting the Wilson family tree together for quite some years now and would love to exchange information. Eric Anderson Wilson had me stumped, as all I could find was material from the 1911 census. It seems that quite a number of the "Dundee" children went to stay with their aunt Agnes in Elgin, my guess is that they visited the Elgin Academy.

If you send one or more replies we should be able to send private messages.

Greenvalley

[WilsonJud]

Hi Greenvalley

Very nice to hear from you.

Yes I am in the UK but unfortunately stuck in London.   Luckily one of my cousinsand some family live fairly near us which is nice.   He is a grandson of Eric Anderson Wilson.    Eric came to London and worked in the city.   His daughters, my mother and her sister  went to Southampstead High School for Girls in Hampstead, but when Eric died suddenly at 55, she had to leave shcool and went out to work.   She told me a relative had got her a job in the city at the Bank of London and South America .   This now makes sense since I have read from CowleyDove that Great Uncle John worked for that bank all his life.   Unfortunately my mother died when I was 25 so I never got round to asking enough.   

I would love to exchange information with you privately when we have done enough exhanges.   I have never ventured into this field of finding ancestors before and am not at all good at it and dont know the ropes at all.

WilsonJud

[WilsonJud]

Hi Steve,

I was delighted to hear from you and to know that what I remember fits with your knowledge of the family.   Sometimes after all these years on wonders if some of the memories are all muddled up or that perhaps some have been imagined.   I would love to hear more.   The book you mentioned in one of your posts sounds intriguing.   I dont suppose it is generally available.    My husbanf and I have visited Sotland quite a lot and  stayed in the nineties with one relative, a cousin of my mother.    Another time we had to go up because of my husband's work and (as well as going to the Braemar gathering which was great)we visited Elgin, but not knowing what road or house to look for just wandered through to get a feel of the place.   It is great to know it is still there and may be able to go again sometime to have a look.

Look forward to hearing from  you.

WilsonJud

[greenvalley]

Thanks for the reply WilsonJud,

Charles Simpson Wilson, the father of Eric Anderson Wilson, was the brother of my husband's grandfather, John Wilson. I have quite a lot of information on the Wilsons which I am more than happy to share and incredibly curious to what happened to the branch of Eric Anderson Wilson.

Do you, or your cousin, happen to have a picture of Charles Simpson Wilson? (By the way, Simpson is the maiden name of your great-great grandmother Margaret, who was married to Thomas Wilson, farmer at Hillside of Balgay in Dundee.)

The Wilson family never ceases to amaze me. I started the research as a present for my husband, but the Wilsons keep throwing up interesting surprises so my research never stops.

The only daughter I could find for Eric was Ruth Mary, born in Fulham in 1911, was she your mother?

Greenvalley

[cowleydove]

WisonJud,
It looks like we are second cousins. Nice to meet you. I have attached a picture of John Jessiman Wilson. I can certainly send you the book on the Andersons which was written by Elizabeth Anderson. That book and Greenvalley's book on the Wilsons contain a wealth of information about the two families that were so closely connected. I will send you my email in a personal message. If you email me I will send more pictures and a copy of the Anderson book.
Steve