Owen Family Llandudno

[Hallamette]

I am trying to find the parents of John Owen 1797 Copper Miner/Hotel Keeper Prince of Wales House, Lloyd Street, Llandudno (wife Alice) and William Owen 1800(wife Anne) Inn Keeper of the Kings Head Llandudno. My gut feeling is that they are brothers but as yet I am unable to prove it. Any help I can get will be appreciated.

Thanks

[Dai Llan]

I am in the process of tracing those exact roots, as that is my Greatgreat  Grandfather i am going to visit Llandudno Archives and do some searching. i will let you know. John Owen (Prince of Wales) was one of the original squatters on Llandudno Morfa and they flattened the original Prince of Wales to build the Grand Hotel ( Next door to the New Prince of Wales Loyd St or as it is known now St Georges Crescent) which was designed and owned by Isaac Davies who married William Owens Daughter Ann and took over the Kings. If you are related let me know i have lots more information i.e. Johns son Richard Owen "The Clock" Overton House

[Hallamette]

Hi
If John and William are brothers, we are related! William Owen was my GG Grandfather.
 William Owens daughter (known as Anne Jane) married Isaiah ,not Isaac, Davies. He became the landlord of "The Kings Head" which was previously the inn of William Owen. Together they designed and built St Georges Hotel having been given the plot of land on the sea front by the agent of Lord Mostyn in lieu of an unpaid bar debt.
 I would be really interested in anything else you could tell me.

[Dai Llan]

I am also trying to find the connection to Edward Owen butchers of Mostyn Street

[Dai Llan]

Hallamette have sent you a couple of private messages to be able to send you the research notes i have got as we are not allowed with copyright to post on this site please contact me i am 99% certain they were related just need to see the church records on my next visit Parish records dont give the home address to confirm the Fathers being the same

[Hallamette]

sorry it' taken a while to ge to back to you. My email is bron.parker@gmx.
Thanks
Bron

[Dai Llan]

Sorry Bron that e mail address comes up as invalid?? You might have to send it via a Private Message PM Thats the bit that looks like a scroll under my profile details
 Dave

[rwilkinson]

I thought that the surname of William and John was actually Owens not Owen.  This is quoted from Llandudno before the Hotels by Christopher Draper.  I have traced my relatives back to John Owens born in Llandudno in 1823 (married to Margaret) - but have yet to check parish records to trace Johns parents.   Be interested to hear / share your research.

[Dai Llan]

Hi You will find that most times its down to the transcriber or author of the piece and their interpretation whether it is Owen or Owens as in Owen's family! John from the Prince of Wales was Defiantly Owen as i have Birth and Marriage certs for the family. I have got Owens on both side of the family so i have had fun as i have traced them back to 1800'ish (I will send you a pm with my e mail and i can send you any relevant scans or info i might have)