Alexander MUIR Argyle

[whisky]

Looking for Alexander Muir b. abt 1803 and parents Alexander Muir mariner, and Christina nee Coulthorpe.
Alexander jnr married Mary Graham, daughter of Donald Graham and Flora, nee Henderson, 4.6.1827 Glasgow, Lanark - children John, Alexander, Jean, Daniel and Flora died infants,  Catherine, James, Mary, Ebenezer.
Anything on Muir, Graham, Coulthorpe, Graham, Henderson would be most helpful.

[runningbear]

this is about the best i can come up with my friend

christina coulthorpe born argyll 1781

married alexander muir 1802

had son alexander muir 1803

cannot find any of the two of them on the 1841 census

cannot find donald graham on the 1841 census

all i can find is:

1841 census

king street, kingston(gorbals) glasgow

alexander-age 37- merchant seaman
mary- age 34
john-age 13
alexander- age 10
flora- age 8
jean-age 5
catherine- age 2
daniel- age 7 months

1841 census

do not know if this is your graham family/

peter-40-farmer
elizabeth-25
elizy-7
john-5
alexander-5
dunn-3
catherine-1
floray-65


Joe

[whisky]

Hello Joe,
Many thanks for your efforts, yes that is my Muir family, Alexander (son) emigrated to Australia with 4 of his children.  Don't know about the Graham line though, don't think it is mine, still who knows!! kind regards Whisky

[wildcats13]

I can confirm that Alexander Muir Jnr. came to Australia and lived in Victoria with Mary Graham. Not sure when they arrived and on what ship, but was before 1841. I am doing the family tree for my cousin and although there is a bit of a tangled web to the story, according to the Victorian BMD records, Ebenezer Graham Muir (b: C. 1852), son of Alexander Muir Jnr. and Mary Graham, married Jessica Whitley (b: C. 1853) on 16 July 1871 in Melbourne, Victoria. The records show that four children were born in Australia to Alexander & Mary, Catherine (1841), James (1843), Mary (1847) and Ebenezer Graham (1852).

Ebenezer & Jessica had six children, Jessica Blanche (b: 1872), Ebenezer Alexander (b: 1874), Whitley Ernest (b: 3 August 1876) my cousin's line, Percival Victor (b: 1878), Mary Graham (b: 1881), and Beatrice Denise (b: 1884).

I understand that Jessica was born about 1851 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, and from the Victorian Incoming Passenger Lists, I have found three Whitley children arrived in October 1858 on vessel "Red Jacket". There was Chas (probably Charles) aged 10, Jessie aged 7 and John aged 11. I would love to find more information about Whitley family in Scotland if anyone can help.

All of Ebenezer & Jessica's children were registered at birth as Muir's, but all died as Woods. Jessica divorced Ebenezer in 1891 and married John William Woods in 23 September 1891. John was Commissioner for Railways and Roads, and Member of the Lower House in the Victorian Government from 1871-1892 when he died on 2nd April 1892. Whitley Ernest was my cousin's grandfather.

Would love to receive any further details of all the Scottish ancestors of this line.
regards,

Peter 



 

[whisky]

Hi Peter,
Alexander Muir and wife Mary nee Graham left Liverpool 3.11.1853 on the ship Utopia, arriving in Portland 25.1.1854. They married 26.5.1827 at Kilmartin, Argyll, Mary died 9.11.1878 at Emerald Hill, her parents Donald Graham and Flora nee Henderson. The 4 children you mention were all born in Soctland, they were assisted passengers, Presbyterian.   Their son James is my line, he was b. 1842 Renfrew, John 1828, North Knapdale, Flora 1833 North Knapdale, Ebenezer c. 1.2.1851 Greenock, and on Mary's death certificate children listed as John 49, Alexander died, Daniel died, Flora died, Jane age 43, Catherine 40, James 35, Mary 32, Ebenezer 29.
Alexander died prior to Mary and he was buried at the Maryborough, Victoria cemetary.
Catherine m. Edward Stubbs, she died 1918 South Melbourne.
James Campbell Muir m. Mary Ann Debney, Mary Muir and James Burrell had a son Ebenezer 1874, record of their marriage not found but she m. Joseph Moyle Williams.
Train drivers, stationmasters throughout the family.
If you would like copy of certificates, let me know.
cheers Jill

[wildcats13]

Hi Jill,
Thanks for all the info on the Alexander Muir family line so far. It is a great help and fills in a few holes in the big picture. I would appreciate receiving any certificate copies that you could send. Based on the details that you have sent, this makes your James, my cousins Gr. Grand Uncle. It's nice to find links to the line still alive.

I am happy to send to you details of the Muir/Woods Australian line so far, and would like to know anything on the other family members details here in Australia. I am on the Sunshine Coast and the Woods families are here as well as Canberra. Look foward to hearing from you soon.
Cheers Peter

[wildcats13]

Hi Jill,
I just noticed there was a Margaret Muir aged 25 also on the list of Assisted Passengers on the Utopia. Do you know if she was part of this family also?
Cheers
Peter

[Amuir123]

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[camicmuir]

Joe (runningbear),
Would you have anymore information on the marriage of Alexander Muir in 1802 or/and his birth.
Cheers,
Cam