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Completed - Many thanks - Any significance to only wearing one glove
« on: Tuesday 12 June 07 19:26 BST (UK) »
Hi

Hope this is the right board, the photo is of an ancestor, just wondered if there was anything significant with him wearing only one glove

Jo
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Re: Any significance to only wearing one glove
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 19:54 BST (UK) »
Jo
Whats the Corporals name? Do you know what regiment hes in.
An idea on one glove he could have been wounded in action(Hes got overseas service chevrons on) and have either a prosthetic hand or wearing a glove to hide any disfigurement.

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Re: Any significance to only wearing one glove
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 19:58 BST (UK) »
Hi

Charles Frederick Verity, he was from Leeds, born 1875/6 so I would think, (could be wrong) that he was in a Yorkshire Regiment

So he was a Corporal then, thanks for telling me that, that would probably have been my next question

The overseas service chevrons, are those the ones at the bottom of the sleeve?

Jo

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Re: Any significance to only wearing one glove
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 20:14 BST (UK) »
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=5885384&queryType=1&resultcount=8

Jo Theres only one CF VERITY listed on NA MICs

I think the link above will take you to his Medal Index card at the NA Kew.
It says he belonged to two regiments and im guessing that the cap badge he has on is Army Ordnance Corps which The MIC says he served in
Yes the chevrons are overseas service on his cuff.
Did he survive the war?
If you download his MIC for £3.50 you may get more info about him.

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Re: Any significance to only wearing one glove
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 20:25 BST (UK) »
Many many thanks for that :)

Yes he did survive the war, lived till 1935, that is the first photo I have seen of him.

Do you think his hand would have been badly injured, just seems strange only wearing one glove and a tight fitting one at that

Off the subject but my grandad died in Italy in the war, would his medal index card be at the NA at Kew?

Thank you again

Jo
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Re: Any significance to only wearing one glove
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 20:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Jo
It was just a guess that he was covering a disfigured hand.As i said you may get more info on him off his Medal index card it may say discharged and awarded a Silver War Badge to denote this
The Royal Fusilers were infantry and the Army Ordnance Corps dealt with supplying the ammo to the forward troops so... and this is a guess again he had been wounded and unfit for frontline duties  so was drafted to the AOC

Just checked on Army Ordnance Corps and it was formed in 1918 so he has 2 war chevrons so he mustve been oveseas since 1916.


Am not sure on WW2 medals but dont think they are online you have to write to maybe Glasgow?? i think the details are on this forum under resources.
He will be on the CWGC if you google it though.

Ive got a relative buried in Sicily 1943.

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Re: Any significance to only wearing one glove
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 20:59 BST (UK) »
Ady

Thank you, think my parents have sent off for something from Glasgow, that was back in September 06, and still not got anything back yet.

Been on CWGC site, very good, though I do have some photos of the grave and the actual document that my gr grandparents got for their official War Grave Visit, he his buried in Sangro River.  I also have quite a few photos of him in India and with his trophies for Boxing and Swimming.

Have downloaded Charles F Verity's MIC from NA, doesnt give a great deal of info, and there is nothing in the remarks box to say whether he was discharged.

Thanks

Jo

P.S Was it normal to be in 2 regiments
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Lunn - Yorkshire
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Re: Any significance to only wearing one glove
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 21:09 BST (UK) »
If a bloke was wounded he could end up anywhere after a stint in hospital!
If they were unfit for frontline they could end up in Labour Corps or other non infantry units

later on this year Ancestry are publishing WW1 Pension and discharge records A-Z surnames at present they only cover A-B
If your man was discharged to pension theres a good chance his record will be there.

Does the MIC give which medals he was entitled to?

If no 1915 Star it means he didnt go overseas til 1916.

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Re: Any significance to only wearing one glove
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 21:33 BST (UK) »
Well looks like I will have a while to wait then, long way off V

He did get a 1915 star, couldnt quite make out the others, will have another look tomorrow, Ive got access to it for 56 days

Jo
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Lunn - Yorkshire
Leng - Yorkshire