Livingstone to Australia (Hugh McDiarmid Livingstone)

[OnEaglesWings]

Hugh McDiarmid Livingstone was born abt 1858 in Argyllshire, Scotland.  I am researching any ancestry of Hugh and the connection to Dr David Livingstone (the famous missionary).  Hugh at sometime moved to Australia, married Mary Ann Jane Sanderson (born Maitland, New South Wales, Australia) on the 26 July 1883.  Hugh was the first to establish a store at Mullumbimby, New South Wales, Australia in1894 on a small hill on the corner of Jubilee and Azalea avenues near the dairy. He built a farmhouse on Ivy Hill on a small hill on the corner of Jubilee and Azalea avenues near the dairy.

He had three sons and two daughters, Janet b 1884, Alexander Hugh b 1886, Angus b 1891, Annie b 1896, David Charles b 1894 all in New South Wales.

David Charles married Laura Marshall and died in Kingaroy, Queensland 1966.

Hoping this can be of assistance to someone and they can to me.

David Gibson

[PrueM]

Hi David 

Welcome to Rootschat!

It would help us to know what to look for if you tell us everything you already know about Hugh.  For example, do you know his parents' names?  How do you know he was born in Argyllshire?  etc.

Then let us know exactly what you want, for example if you want to find his immigration records, and we'll do our best to help 

CHeers
Prue

[EDO]

Good morning Members,

This may help insofaras the ancestry is concerned, but then it may be a red-herring!!

This is a connotation of the names you mention. 
I have a Ewen LIVINGSTON b c1815, who married Catherine McDIARMID in October 1842 Aharacle, Argyll, SCO.

There were many families of McDIARMIDs / McDERMIDs who lived in the Northern NSW area Clarence River, even Mullimbimby, including my father-in-law who was born in Maclean in 1896. 

Maclean is not that far from Mullimbimby and the families did move northwards;  even into Queensland!

The whole family came out from Argyll in 1839 to the Taree area..

The above could have been Scottish in-laws of the person you are seeking.

Just a snippet to make your chase interesting!!

http://worldfamilies.net/surnames/m/mcdiarmid
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The above link is to the McDiarmid pages which I administer on behalf of their family groups, world-wide!

Regards

EDO
in Brisbane

[OnEaglesWings]

Hi all,

All I have is family knowledge about Hugh bering born in Argylshire.  I do not know any of his parents. The first I have on him is that he was 36 when David was born in 1894.  I now he was always Hugh when in Australia but also think there has to a a connection somehow with McDiarmid family as suggested EDO.

Something about his family.  Information from NSW Birth Deaths & Marriages:

Yr Born     Name              District
1884        Janet               MacLean
1886        Alexander H     MacLean
1891        Angus              Lismore
1894        David Charles  Murwillumbah 
1896        Annie               Murwillumbah   

I am searching for his imigration record (Scotland to Australia) (Pre birth of Janet 1884 and birth records (abt 1858) in the hope that it will reveal something about his parents and siblings.

EDO,  What is the possibility that Ewen LIVINGSTON b c1815, who married Catherine McDIARMID had a daughter that was Hugh's mother and therefore got the name McDiarmid?

Just love family history hunting.

Thanks to the members for there interest.

David G.

[trish251]

Hi David and another welcome to RootsChat

Was your 1883 NSW marriage certificate too early to give parents and birthplace? or did it just say Scotland? This information was supposed to be on NSW marriage records, but I think not enforced until the 20th century. Do you know when/where Hugh died. His death certificate may contain useful information.

The first 20 years of civil records for Scotland are on the IGI. Your 1858 birth should be among them. There are 4 possibles around your time frame in Argyll
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
If you could match a birth to a parent on a marriage or death??

Trish

[EDO]

G'day again David G

There are some interesting facets of your gene. chase.

My wife's GGrandfather was born Ewen McDIARMID in Glenmore Argyll in 1827 [Birth Certificate confirms this as were the surnames of his siblings]. 
However, the whole family of 13 changed their name to McDERMID for their journey to Australia in 1839 [Possibly there could have been a clerical 'error'].

Then Ewen became known as Hugh!  So Ewen McDIARMID became Hugh McDERMID!! He died 19 Oct 1910 Palmer's Channel, NSW.

Ewen [Hugh] married Janet [Jessie] McPHEE on 20 Mar 1849 Free Presbyterian Church, Bushgrove, [Glenrose], NSW.  They also had 13 children.

I mention these facts, not as a red-herring, but as a possibility of a link between the families, of which I have no detail.  Perhaps their location could give a clue.

Yes, David, Genealogy is certainly an interesting past-time.

Will you let me know how you fare with your research?

EDO
in Brisbane

[EDO]

Hello again David G
Refer also to my earlier response.

EDO,  What is the possibility that Ewen LIVINGSTON b c1815, who married Catherine McDIARMID had a daughter that was Hugh's mother and therefore got the name McDiarmid?

Quite possibly and, like many aspects of genealogy, must not be discounted.

Ewen McDiarmid [Hugh McDERMID] did not have a Catherine as one of his 13 siblings:  But there is a strong possibility that they could have been related. 

As I mentioned previously, there were and no doubt still are, a lot of McDERMID [McDIARMID]s in Northen NSW.

Do you know when and on what vessel Catherine came to Australia from Scotland?

Can you be sure that they came from Argyl?
There were a lot of McDIARMIDs who came from adjoining Perthshire!

Also do you know where and when they settled?

EDO

[OnEaglesWings]

Hi Trish,

From information given to me, the birth certificate of David Livingstone had his father as Hugh McDiamid Livingstone, a storekeeper aged 36.

On checking again it could have been his marriage certificate that said born Argyleshire, Scotland.

I will check further.

David G
Gold Coast, Australia

[trish251]

If you haven't checked the marriage detail - it is worth it (although it may not have all the required information  ). Marriage information is usually more reliable than death details as it is given by the person not an informant.

Trish