hyde road

[tony h]

Hi Sue,
Had a quick look on the way to work and no sign of it  but then again i may not have gone far enough  As you may guess from my search interests we have a lot of Gorton material at work and i've brought some files home to look at. I've located 159 and 177 Hyde Road so have a better idea where to look tomorrow. Also were the Hamer's catholic as i know where lots of records are.

Best wishes
Tony 

[tony h]

159 is the Grocers on the left of last shot
177 is the Pawnbrokers on the right of next shot.

 
Tony

[tony h]

Hi Sue,
I've located the picture of 71 Stott & Brown plumbers you mentioned earlier and whilst very, very persuasive, i'm not convinced. The window edging details appear different but in everything else including scale it looks about right. I have a number of plumbers shops on Hyde Rd so don't let 'plumber' put you off the track I'm re-posting both pics together for others to voice an opinion.

In the meantime there is one thing I'm certain of The chip shop next door but one served the most fabulous mouth watering fish and chips you've ever dreamed of I used to go regularly there for Friday night fish suppers between 1963 and 1973. what my mum ever thought of allowing a 3 old to go for food is beyond me well i may have been a bit older

This row has definitely been demolished and originally was built on the first football home of Manchester City F.C

Catch you 2mrw

Cheers
Tony

[uk2003]

Hi Tony

Great find, but one problem rootschat is in breach of copyright. that photo belongs to Manchester Libraries.

I have asked in the past of Manchester Libraries to use photos from their site on this site as we our family research and non profit forum, and it is OK as long as the photos have not been cropped, copyright removed and a link to the site (not always done the last one) is in place.

Just upload the full picture and we should be safe.

Regards
Ken

[tony h]

Thanks Ken for the advice, so much appreciated, i'll post original with copyright notice and my 'chippy' next door but one.
Thanks again Ken
 
http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=29884

Tony

[harewoodhouse]

hmm now I see them side by side ,yes I think you are right...close but no coconut!  the doorway is slightly different and the window and there is no grate in the footpath...  I know what you mean about losing a good chippie its a crying shame.
 with a pawnbroker and a grocer and a chippie all they were missing was the pub and I am sure they would of been as happy as pigs in muck !
yes Tony the hamers were catholic...please do tell where I can find records on them ...It is funny I thought my family must of lived near manchester cathedral and had that as their family church as they all seem to have been married baptized etc there then someone on here told me that the reason for that was that the cathedral charged less then the other places...thats why half of manchester is recorded there ! I cant wait for the dvd on their register to come out so I can track them all down.

[harewoodhouse]

Oh Tony I just went to the Gorton Monastery site what a great project to be involved with! I am sure if Alfred Finley Hamer was still alive he would be giving you a hand, although truth be told it was his wife Harriet who did all the lovely leadlight windows and cut the glass. She was often left in charge while Alfred took off on his little overseas adventures, he even came to New Zealand  for the fishing!
I was wanting to find out more about an Ellen Pickersgill who was at some point put in a catholic orphanage as her parents appear to have died. In the 1891 census she is down as living at the St Bridget's Orphanage she was 13 then. She married a Hubert Crawley and I have a sneaky suspicion that when Harriet died Ellen married Alfred Finley Hamer and took over raising Harriet's children even though she was Harriet's aunt, but I don't have any proof just some things my grandmother would say , although my grandmother thought Ellen was Harriet's sister as she was only 6 years older then Harriet I  can see how she thought that but she was Harriet's mother Emma's half sister and in later census when Emma is married she has taken Ellen in and raising her with her own children.

[tony h]

Hi Sue,
Closing in on 190 now, there are still some terraced shops in the approx location of 190. I just have to sort out the numbering. The attached map shows 159 and 177 and then on the South side 136 on the extreme right. 190 is out of view but all is not lost as i know the author of this webpage Also Ivy and Middlewood Streets are shown as well.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/d.a.ratcliffe/lhg/vol1/map.html

Best wishes
Tony

[uk2003]

Just noticed some else looking at the name Hamer in a current posting http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,237640.0.html

probably not related - but you never know