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[cairolyle]

Tom,

It is possible that John and Gavin were born in the USA, especially as John was in the war in Boston, MA. I will see if I can contact the David Ross who wrote the book. I did write to a Don Ross in WI, who was also quoted. It will take a bit before he gets back to me, but I will have more info I am sure when he does. The History of Cape Negro and Blanche, 3rd edition 1991. Perhaps he has more info in it. I will see if I can locate any passenger records that will show Thomas Alexander Lyle coming over from Scotland. Now to figure out when he might have come over!

The problem is that I went onto the LDS site and found John and Gavin Lyle, sons to Thomas Alexander Lyle from Scotland. Perhaps this was a link that shouldn't have been made on my part, but I was also going on the info from the Ross book just mentioned.
IF John Lyle was born around 1785, and I say this since his first child (Sarah, I think) was born in 1808, which would make him 25....and IF Thomas (if that is his dad) was about 25 when he had him, that would place him to be born around 1760. Maybe.
So....an educated guess might make Thomas coming over to Boston (?) between perhaps 1780-1785.

Of course a twist on this might be that the Lyles did indeed originally settle in Nova Scotia, but John went off to fight in the war.....educated guesses, but still just guesses.

Again, I appreciate the help. Stick with me if you can. I'll figure this out soon enough! I have also done my maternal line of the Slaters and have gotten as far back as 1826. Got stuck with no info on my g.g.g.g.g.grandfather Thomas Slater from Muff Parish, Drumskellan, Donegal, Ireland.
Yes, MORE darn Thomases! I am beginning to really hate that name! I have also done the Tompkins line on my great grandfather's side. I have been able to go back as 1275 on that with help from folks who have written a book or two on the Tompkins family.

Cheers,
Joy

[cairolyle]

Tom,

I just got off the phone with Don who has been doing the Lyle family for some time now and you were right! Thomas Alexander Lyle was a big mistake!

John and Gavin's father's name was Gavin Lyle (6/15/1712) and mom was Isobel Curry. Cheers to you!! Thank you!! In fact, I learned that John's middle name may be Hervey. Strange, not Harvey, but Hervey. Must be a family name?

Their grandparents were John Lyle and Elizabeth Gordon. Born about 1684, if they had children at 25. Educated guess. Could you check the Scotlandpeople website for me on that one Tom? 

All these folks were born in or about Hamilton, Scotland.

Thank you, thank you!!
Joy

[tidybooks]

Hi Joy,

Posted earlier,  John Lyle and Elizabeth Gordon

Children of John Lyle and Elizabeth Gordon –
1 – Gavin Lyle b 03 Apr 1709 Hamilton – died young.
2 – Margaret Lyle b 19 Nov 1710 Hamilton
3 – Gavin Lyle b 15 Jun 1712 Hamilton
4 – John Lyle b 09 Mar 1714 Hamilton

Children of Gavin Lyle/Isobel Curry married 01 Apr 1750 Hamilton (extracted record on IGI)

1-   John Lyle b 18 Dec 1750 Hamilton
2-   Gavin Lyle b 27 may 1752 Hamilton

These are the 2 men who went to Nova Scotia, I think

I have checked for John Hervey Lyle and only says John Lyle in Scotland People website.

Tom

[tidybooks]

Hi Joy,

Not found any Hervey's yet,
John Lylle (sic) married Elizabeth Gordon 22 Jun 1708 Glasgow.

1 - Possible DOB for Elizabeth Gordon is 21 Mar 1687 to Robert Gordon and Jean Finnie. At Hamilton.(Extracted record)
2 - Better one is Elizabeth Gordon c 09 Mar 1684 to Gavin Gordon and Margaret Armour
in Glasgow, Lanarkshire. (Hence the name Gavin and indeed Margaret in family names)

There are 2 possible John Lyle births,

1 – John Lyll (sic) c 05 Apr 1674 at Barony, Glasgow, to Parents John Lyll and Marion Brach

2 – John Lyle b 21 Jan 1677 of Auchinsale, Auchinsaugh, Lanarkshire, to parents James Lyle and Janet Fleemying (sic).

I prefer the 1674 one as name of John is used, only doubt that would make a 10 years difference in marriage, not unheard of though.

Tom

[tidybooks]

Hi Joy,

I have surfed and found Susan Snows family tree which you had mentioned earlier. Sarah Spinney married John Lyle, no middle name there but one of his grandchildren was given the name

4  John Harvey Lyle  b: February 17, 1844 in Newburyport, MA

 and one of his children to his second wife was christened

5 John Hervey Lyle  b: December 11, 1873 in Dixon,IL 

So I think the Hervey came about across the pond, so to speak.

Tom

[cairolyle]

Excellent! Thank you Tom!
I will continue to investigate these dates and people. Don is sending over some info compiled by a woman in Nova Scotia who was head of a genealogical society and who did the Lyle name, so I can match her info with yours.

This is so exciting to be getting all this help and info. Thank goodness for the internet, eh?

Joy