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Henley Union workhouse
« on: Tuesday 05 June 07 03:49 BST (UK) »
My great-grandfather, Samuel Jones, was born in the Henley Union workhouse on 24 Jun 1858, to Mary Jones. I've never been able to find the name of the father. Samuel was still in the workhouse for the 1871 census, but Mary had disappeared.  It also appears pretty certain that the same Mary Jones was delivered of a daughter Caroline 9 years earlier in the same workhouse, on 6 Oct 1849. Again, no father identified.
I can find no evidence of a filming of the records of the workhouse in FamilySearch.  Can anyone tell me where the records, if they survive, might be found, and how I might access them?
Cheers, Roger
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Re: Henley Union workhouse
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 June 07 12:00 BST (UK) »

Hi Roger

Ive found this info on 1861 census. Looks like right family
but S Jones is female ?

RG9/881
Henley union Workhouse, Henley on Thames, Oxfordshire.

M Jones  (f)  unm 29  almswomen serv     b. Henley
S Jones  (f)           3    scholar                   b. Henley

Also

M Jones  (f)  wid   87 almswoman              b. Ipsden


Alison  ???
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Re: Henley Union workhouse
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 June 07 22:14 BST (UK) »
Yes, I have that census page. I believe and hope that the sex is just a mistake.

The birth cert I have is definitely for my Sam, and place of birth is the Henley Union Workhouse in 1858, so he would be 3 in 1861, as shown in that census.

In the 1871 census he is shown with all the same info except age, now 13, and sex is male, so the case is strong.

Thanks for your help.
Cheers, Roger
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Re: Henley Union workhouse
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 June 07 13:31 BST (UK) »
the sex is not given in 1861 census.
for S Jones
Mary is listed as unmarried
have you found her in 1851 census
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Re: Henley Union workhouse
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 June 07 22:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Roger,

The records can be found at Oxfordshire Record Office, St Luke's Church, Temple Road, Cowley, Oxford OX4 2EX.

I don't think that they have been filmed, but you could contact the record office to ask about searches.

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Re: Henley Union workhouse
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 June 07 00:54 BST (UK) »
Have you checked to see if there is a baptism registered in any of the churches which may give a clue to the father?

If not let me know and I can go and have a look at the St Marys transcripts for you

Jackie ;)
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Re: Henley Union workhouse
« Reply #6 on: Friday 22 June 07 11:51 BST (UK) »
Clem, Little Nell and JMP: Thank you for your replies, and apologies for my lack of response. I had a HDD crash that took a while to recover.

Clem: I haven't looked at the 1851 census yet. Need to try and find Mary Jones aged about 19 and maybe her daughter Caroline (also born in the Henley Union workhouse) aged about 2. Saving up to get a sub to ancestry.com as the nearest FHC is a long way away.

Little Nell: Thanks for the info, I'll contact the ORO. I've seen an LDS film of the workhouse minutes, but it contained no inmate info at all.

jmp: Thanks so much for your offer. I have LDS fiche  6203918 on my todo list to order and search, but haven't got to it yet.  If it's easy for you to search the transcripts for Samuel (born 24 Jun 1848) and Caroline (born 6 Oct 1849) I'd really appreciate it.

Cheers, Roger
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Re: Henley Union workhouse
« Reply #7 on: Friday 22 June 07 12:49 BST (UK) »
Dear Roger

The 1851 lists a Caroline Jones, born Henley, aged 1 living in Tilehurst (a village just outside Reading) with her grandparents Thomas Walker, aged 48 and Caroline Walker aged 38.  Thomas is a railway labourer born in Marlow, grandma Caroline born in Henley.

Also in the 1851 census is a Mary Jones, aged 20 living in the parish of St Giles, Reading, working as a servant in the household of a Mr & Mrs Haslam.

These may, or of course may not, be yours!

KN
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Re: Henley Union workhouse
« Reply #8 on: Friday 22 June 07 19:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Roger,

No joy Im afraid. I have checked St Marys up to 1864 just in case they were baptised late but no Samuel or Caroline.

 There is a Samuel baptised at St Marys, 27 Apr 1842 born 27 Nov 1841 to a William and Mary occupation carpenter living in Henley and  a Caroline bap 27 Sep 1840 born Aug 21 1840, father Joseph and mother Rebecca, occupation labourer living in Henley, but these are the only ones.

I also checked the nearbyHenley  Holy Trinity with no result but was unable to check Rotherfield Greys Independent as that only goes up to 1837

Sorry they dont seem to be there  :(

If you do find a link to Henley though and want anything checking please feel free to come back to me

Jackie :D
Devon: Hortop, Phillips, Palmer, (Lamerton area)
Derbyshire: Hancock, Widdowson (Sheffield area)
Suffolk:Ratcliff ,Howlett, (Lowestoft area)
Kent:Ratcliff (Ramsgate area)
Norfolk: Stout, Fiske