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Offline yorkshirerose

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Residence search please
« on: Monday 04 June 07 22:24 BST (UK) »
I have a marriage certificate for a Joseph Holley (Occupation...professional) and a Kate Sturgess, married 8th October 1884 in the parish church in the parish of Bishop Ryder Birmingham, Warwick, residence at time of marriage for both of them was Lancaster Street, no number mentioned.

I was wondering if anyone could please do a street search for 1883 - 84?

I appreciate any help on this as my Joseph as been giving me a headache for 3-4 yrs now :-)

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Yorkshirerose
Walton, Bleasby, Firth, (Kippax, Allerton Bywater, Carlton Snaith, New Malton Yorkshire) Banks
(Staffordshire and Castleford Yorkshire)
Holley, Booker, Hunt, Sturges, Didham (Hastings, Wiltshire, Surrey, Brighton)

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Re: Residence search please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 June 07 23:43 BST (UK) »
If they both gave the same address it was more than likely a "convenience" address used to enable them to marry in a particular church/parish
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Re: Residence search please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 June 07 23:47 BST (UK) »
Thankyou, will try some other avenue to go down now, sometimes this hobby can be so frustrating but I still love it.....lol
Walton, Bleasby, Firth, (Kippax, Allerton Bywater, Carlton Snaith, New Malton Yorkshire) Banks
(Staffordshire and Castleford Yorkshire)
Holley, Booker, Hunt, Sturges, Didham (Hastings, Wiltshire, Surrey, Brighton)

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Re: Residence search please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 June 07 18:21 BST (UK) »
What additional info. do you think a street search will give?A postal address will typically give the head occupant and possibly occupation.According to Kelly's ( 1884 ) there are no Holleys listed.Apart from Carole's info. this may have been the address they intended to live at after marriage.
Tell us what the problem is with this family and we may be able to help.
Regards Jim
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Residence search please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 June 07 22:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Jim

Was trying to find out if it was a b & b or hostel of some sort. My gr gr grandfather was down as a vocalist on various certificates so was wondering if they were travelling around music halls etc......they married in 1884 had their son in 1885 but in 1891 census I can find their son, my gr grandfather, living with his grandmother in Hastings but no sign of Joseph and his wife then in 1901 my gr grandfather was living with his mother and grandmother in Hastings but no sign of Joseph. When his son married in 1903 Joseph was down as deceased......

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Liz
Walton, Bleasby, Firth, (Kippax, Allerton Bywater, Carlton Snaith, New Malton Yorkshire) Banks
(Staffordshire and Castleford Yorkshire)
Holley, Booker, Hunt, Sturges, Didham (Hastings, Wiltshire, Surrey, Brighton)

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Re: Residence search please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 June 07 13:58 BST (UK) »
Hello Liz
Looking at Lancaster St. in 1881 it shows 2 possible dwellings that appear to be commercial lodging houses.One in particular was no.20 where there were about 8 or 9 lodgers.The other was a back-to-back with about 4 lodgers.
If they were travelling around they may have been in lodgings in 1891 but missed off the census.The son may have been left with Grandma because of schooling,but you've probably worked that out for yourself.
Jim
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Residence search please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 June 07 14:16 BST (UK) »
Found a Kate Holly age 30 visiting Wells Family in Hastings.Her birth place is given as St.Leonard's Sussex and is listed as married.Is that her?
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Residence search please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 June 07 14:18 BST (UK) »
Found a Kate Holly in 1891 age 30 visiting Wells Family in Hastings.Her birth place is given as St.Leonard's Sussex and is listed as married.Is that her?
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Residence search please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 June 07 17:08 BST (UK) »

Hello Jim


Hello Liz
Looking at Lancaster St. in 1881 it shows 2 possible dwellings that appear to be commercial lodging houses.One in particular was no.20 where there were about 8 or 9 lodgers.The other was a back-to-back with about 4 lodgers.
If they were travelling around they may have been in lodgings in 1891 but missed off the census.The son may have been left with Grandma because of schooling,but you've probably worked that out for yourself.
Jim

You're a star!!! Thankyou for that, definitely have more to look at now a few things are falling into place.....

Thankyou for the Kate Holly in 1891 too, someone else as also sent me that and I think (Hope) it is her......my Kates son and mother were living in the St Leonards area so wondering if thats the reason place of birth for Kate was down as there, my Kate (Elizabeth Kate Jane) was actually born in Hungerford Berkshire but we all know how details can be written down wrong on the census entries!!!!

Many thanks again Jim

Regards
Liz
Walton, Bleasby, Firth, (Kippax, Allerton Bywater, Carlton Snaith, New Malton Yorkshire) Banks
(Staffordshire and Castleford Yorkshire)
Holley, Booker, Hunt, Sturges, Didham (Hastings, Wiltshire, Surrey, Brighton)