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Re: Robertson/ Saint marriage
« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 October 07 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jen

Yes, I know, you start going round in circles, don't you, when you are stuck.

In my post I meant to say re. the 1851 census return 'and she was married to William but she says she was born in Peterhead'.

This would fit with Ann's post re the Peterhead marriage and therefore Peterhead being Christian's parish. However, I note that there is a big gap in the Peterhead OPRs of 32 years of marriage records, from 1764 to 1796, so no sign of James & Margaret's marriage.

There is one birth to a James Robertson in Peterhead: Margarita Anne Robertson Jul 1799. A little sister? Margarita! A bit exotic for Peterhead, but if mum's name was Margaret....

Now, if you could find Margarita's Death Cert...

Trish
Smith, Whitecross, Watson, Gibson, Thom, Jamieson, Sangster, Johnston, Reid, Robertson, Fidler, Arthur - mainly in Slains and Cruden. Park in Peterhead.
Mutch in Ellon/Belhelvie/Foveran. Robertson, Forbes in Ellon.  Shivas in Ellon/Old Deer. Allan in Old Machar. Keith, Ironside in Old Deer. McKenzie , Brownie in Skene. Watson, Milne in Monquhitter/Lonmay. Shepherd in Belhelvie/Tarves.

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Re: Robertson/ Saint marriage
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 02:41 GMT (UK) »
Jen,

Could you post the relevant section of the death certificate here so we can all try?

However, if it's just a matter of the word being so faint as to be illegible, your best bet is to submit a Contact Form to SP.  In my experience, they will promptly post out a beautifully legible paper copy at no cost to you.

JAP
Added later.  PS: Christian is listed as 65 (rounded down to nearest five) in 1841, and 77 in 1851.  This suggests a birthdate of 1774.  As mentioned above, her birthplace is listed in 1851 as Peterhead (William's is listed as Cruden).  What does the 1861 census give as her age and birthplace, and what is her age on the death cert.

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Re: Robertson/ Saint marriage
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 30 October 07 15:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I have tried to post a section of the death entry but the format is wrong for this site so I shall have to try to do something about that.

I am now thinking that I have the wrong birth record for Christian and that she was in fact born in 1774 and not 1784, as I have in my records.

She was said to be ninety-two when she died in 1866.
In 1861 she was eighty-seven and that with all other census entries gives 1774 the more likely date.

I have been tidying up my incredibly messy files and found what I thought was an exciting hand-written note, which I made on a long past visit to ANESFHS, about an Alexander SANITH, living in Uppermill, Cruden in 1841. So I have just been onto Scotland's People and checked that census, to find that he was actually Alexander SMITH, 60, a miller, with wife and family. The writing on this entry is almost identical to that on Christian's death certificate and the Smith bit really does look like Sanith! It's a very ornate 'm' with three loops to it, the first of which curls under and looks like an 'a'.
He is still there in 1851, age 73, born in Logie Buchan and most definitely Smith.

So I am now looking for possible Smiths in either Cruden or Logie Buchan to see if there is an Elizabeth who might be the wife of James Robertson and mother of Christian.

Wish me luck.

Thanks for all your help - I'd be more than grateful for any more input on this, especially if I am doomed to have yet another Smith line in my family.

Jen
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: Robertson/ Saint (Smith!!) marriage
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 12 May 10 17:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen, it's Sam researching Daniel!

I have Christian Daniel's death certificate and under magnification on the Scotland's People website, the maiden name looks like a definite Smith to me.  But that is as far as I have got. 

Keep digging

Sam


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Re: Robertson/ Saint marriage
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 12 May 10 17:29 BST (UK) »
Hello Sam,

Are you the same Sam ( from Peterhead but living down south now) as I was in touch with some time ago?  If so, how nice to hear from you again and if not, welcome to Rootschat anyway.  :)

I haven't done anything on this line for ages but had pretty much come to the conclusion that Smith was the most obvious answer.

Have you gone much further with the Daniel line?

Jen
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: Robertson/ Saint marriage
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 12 May 10 18:12 BST (UK) »
The same and just renewing my studies that have lapsed for some time.  Peterhead has an excellent FHS centre in Broad St (see www.fhsb.org.uk) with also MIs on CD for Peterhead (but not Cruden/Slains/Blackhill).  I am still a tad uncertain as to where Blackhills actually is but now believe it to be very near to Longhaven on the opposite side of the road (on the Phd to Aberdeen road about 5 miles south of Boddam try http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=L%3Aonghaven&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl)

Nice to talk again

Sam

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Re: Robertson/ Saint marriage
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 12 May 10 19:10 BST (UK) »
See also attachment

Regards  Sam

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Re: Robertson/ Saint marriage
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 12 May 10 19:31 BST (UK) »
I agree with your idea of where Blackhills was. We were up in that part of Scotland for a few days last year and I came to very much the same conclusion.

The death/burial entry is interesting because it doesn't look so much like Blackhills as Slackhills. That first letter really doesn't look like a B to me. What do you think?

Jen
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: Robertson/ Saint marriage
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 13 May 10 11:47 BST (UK) »
It looks like Shackhill!

Sam