Rochdale Cemetery request

[Gillg]

That's much better than my efforts, and explains quite a lot about the different types of graves, which is very useful. 

Thanks, Marlene.   I can always rely on you to come up with some good information. 

Gill

[Dale]

Necessity m'dear! I had to find the difference, if any, between a pauper's grave and a common grave and that was the best I could find!

Just had a major breakthrough with the Northants Tweltree lot! Back to the 1780s whew!
These Rootschatters are wonderful!
Spa time! Bed time!
Cheers
Marlene

[tony h]

hi Gill,
Found my man  At long last, he's down in London, died 11th June, buried 15th June 1909. That's this week 98 years ago, opportune or coincidence

I'll catch up with your ever so complicated inter marriages  when i get a chance. And thanks for info on what i might expect from Local Studies re other look up i responded to. Popping in there tomorrow if you have requests.

Tony

[Gillg]

Hi Marlene

Great news about your Northants breakthrough!  Another very large sheet of paper to fill, then. 

I've had a huge number of emails from someone with connections to my gt-gt-grandfather's brother Benjamin Hurst, supplying me with census records and other information.  Since I only learned of his existence last week, it's been amazing! 

Hi Tony

I'm so pleased you have had success with your search for Patrick.  It was the Fair(e)ys on your shoulder, you know.  We bring good luck wherever we go.    But yet another coincidence with the dates!

Hope your trip to Local Studies is fruitful.  I think I've missed the boat with requests from there, as I was out on a jolly last night, so have only just seen your message, but for the moment I think I have what I need, or will have when the third grave record arrives.  Thanks for your offer, though.   

Best regards to both of you,

Gill 

[Gillg]

Tony

The post has just arrived with the third grave record, and as I suspected the extra person in the grave is 5 week old Jean Lawson, granddaughter of George Thomas and Sarah Ann Hurst.  She was the daughter of my mother's older sister, and was buried on 19 January 1932. 

The Grant number for this grave is 11820, and the Grave Number is 6316, Square E, Plot 5. Does this help at all with the Butterworth/Hurst vault problem?  The grave was purchased by George Thomas Hurst, Music Teacher of 15 East Street, Rochdale, on 25 Oct 1906 for £3.10s. 0d.  It was 7 ft x 3 ft x 9 ft. 

Regards,

Gill

[tony h]

Hi Gill,
Had a great day but it might give you some headaches
Tony

Prophetic words after my first visit just as you thought you were nearing the end you're right back at the beginning. I must confess i've struggled to keep up with all the new info you have coming in but it does start to confirm my instinct that all those plots up there are rellies of some sort.

Best wishes
Tony

[Dale]

From the outside!
Would it help to have one list of the names Gill knows in chronological order?
Perhaps interspersed with the question mark ones in italics?
I  find it difficult to follow when you're constantly referring back to old postings! (Age?)
Bit of a pain to construct I admit but  I do a chronological timeline  for each of my main family groups adding wee extras such as
X turned 21
Y lost on 1851 census
Z widowed 1851-61

The timeline helps to  keep me focussed on what I am missing, when the family might have gathered for a wedding or funeral or emigrated.

My family tree program doesn't give me this information and I'd love to have one that does just that!

From the outside it does look as if the families were either;
1. closely related
2. good friends
3. were buried around the same time (initially) and had the cash to purchase additional plots all together
4. wanted to give Gill another headache!

My great grandad bought 10 plots in Patea about 1898  and there are family burials there up to the 1950s.  But then husbands & wives elected to buy their own plots, usually when the couple had children die in unnatural order - at least that's my reading of it!

Cheers
Marlene.

[Gillg]

Hi Marlene and Tony

Sorry about the information overload 

It's scheduled to pour with rain this pm, so I might try the timeline exercise Marlene mentioned, probably just listing the deaths, rather than other info about these people, for the purpose of this topic. 

Thanks, both of you, for your continuing interest in my family.  It really helps to have another approach to a problem. 

Gill   

[Dale]

Hi Gill
I'm sure you will find the exercise useful  and if post it here it just might give others some ideas!
Incidentally I have just found the graves of another 2 sets of great grandparents (shows how little I knew!) and they're both here in Wanganui!
Off to visit tomorrow if it doesn't snow as predicted! (Don't suppose anyone will see my long johns!)
Your elegant friend
M